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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4838606" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>This is the core of metagaming ligic.</p><p></p><p>You must separate the two.</p><p></p><p>Just because you as a player have memorized the entire MM does not mean that your PC has.</p><p></p><p>Just because you as a player have much experience with real life sword fighting does not mean that your wizard PC does.</p><p></p><p>Again you have not given us a lot of information about the PCs themselves - only sporadic information on real life comaprisions to justifying your decision and examples of how your DM is a "bad DM".</p><p></p><p>No one here is arguing based on the information given that the DM is incorrect in how he handles illusions per the RAW.</p><p></p><p>But almost everyone is critizing using player knowledge to run your PC (i.e., metgaming).</p><p></p><p>Attempts at rationalizing this stance basically are falling on deaf ears because it is a rationalization and not a stance based on RAW and what is commonly believed as to be proper role-playing etiquette.</p><p></p><p>What levels/classes are the PCs?</p><p>What skills do they possess?</p><p>How much experience have they had with vampires (or other undead)?</p><p>What is their "normal" pattern for searching for treasure?</p><p>How do they normal behave (i.e. what is the basic personality type of the PCs)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4838606, member: 16285"] This is the core of metagaming ligic. You must separate the two. Just because you as a player have memorized the entire MM does not mean that your PC has. Just because you as a player have much experience with real life sword fighting does not mean that your wizard PC does. Again you have not given us a lot of information about the PCs themselves - only sporadic information on real life comaprisions to justifying your decision and examples of how your DM is a "bad DM". No one here is arguing based on the information given that the DM is incorrect in how he handles illusions per the RAW. But almost everyone is critizing using player knowledge to run your PC (i.e., metgaming). Attempts at rationalizing this stance basically are falling on deaf ears because it is a rationalization and not a stance based on RAW and what is commonly believed as to be proper role-playing etiquette. What levels/classes are the PCs? What skills do they possess? How much experience have they had with vampires (or other undead)? What is their "normal" pattern for searching for treasure? How do they normal behave (i.e. what is the basic personality type of the PCs)? [/QUOTE]
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