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<blockquote data-quote="MichaelK" data-source="post: 4843070" data-attributes="member: 60635"><p>DMG 3.5 page 15</p><p></p><p>"The important point to remember regarding the actions of player characters during an adventure is that each player controls his or her own character. Don't force a character to take a specific action (unless the character is under a magical compulsion; see below)."</p><p></p><p>And when we see below, DMG 3.5 page 16</p><p></p><p>"Your responsibility for dictating PC actions shifts when a player becomes subject to an effect (such as a charm person spell or the domination ability of a vampire) that puts him or her under the control of a monster or an NPC. Now the character is compelled to do the bidding of his or her controller - represented by you."</p><p></p><p>Although this doesn't specify Mind Affecting, it does provide an equally specific standard of arbitration. Effects which "Put him or her under the control of a monster or an NPC". Illusions do not have this effect, thus the DM is not entitled to control the PC's actions according to the rules as written.</p><p></p><p><strong>Q.E.D.</strong></p><p></p><p><em>(Note: I'm not serious, I just can't resist a dare. I think the solution to this problem is discussion and consideration between the players and the DM to figure out a mutually satisfying conclusion. This shouldn't involve quoting the rule book at each other.)</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MichaelK, post: 4843070, member: 60635"] DMG 3.5 page 15 "The important point to remember regarding the actions of player characters during an adventure is that each player controls his or her own character. Don't force a character to take a specific action (unless the character is under a magical compulsion; see below)." And when we see below, DMG 3.5 page 16 "Your responsibility for dictating PC actions shifts when a player becomes subject to an effect (such as a charm person spell or the domination ability of a vampire) that puts him or her under the control of a monster or an NPC. Now the character is compelled to do the bidding of his or her controller - represented by you." Although this doesn't specify Mind Affecting, it does provide an equally specific standard of arbitration. Effects which "Put him or her under the control of a monster or an NPC". Illusions do not have this effect, thus the DM is not entitled to control the PC's actions according to the rules as written. [B]Q.E.D.[/B] [I](Note: I'm not serious, I just can't resist a dare. I think the solution to this problem is discussion and consideration between the players and the DM to figure out a mutually satisfying conclusion. This shouldn't involve quoting the rule book at each other.)[/I] [/QUOTE]
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