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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4847211" data-attributes="member: 43283">Maybe I'm missing something here...It really looks like the OP (and/or the other players) used OOC knowledge and are now trying to explain it away and justify it. The GM certainly could have handled things differently too.At the end of the day... so what?If the OP manages to badger people into giving up, because he continues to revise what happened and so forth... then what? Are you going to drag your GM over to the computer and force him to read (so far) 8 pages and then declare how he was wrong and the players were right? Is your GM _really_ going to care about the opinions of a bunch of people on ENWorld?This totally seems like the sort of thing that needs to be hashed out with the group and the GM. You lot are the ones that have to all play together. Right now, this seems to be some sort of mutant form of rules-lawyering or something. I know I personally would either kick out a player engaged in the kind of behavior that the OP seems to be engaged in, or simply quit running a game and let someone else do it; depending on how good a friend I was with the people in question.What is the actual point to all of this?</blockquote>