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<blockquote data-quote="Moff_Tarkin" data-source="post: 4848483" data-attributes="member: 14175"><p>We didn’t cast detect magic to prove the body was an illusion. I fully understand how people made that assumption. In fact, I believe in one of my posts I claimed the detect magic was to spot illusion or trickery. “or trickery” being a key part that people seemed to have ignored.</p><p></p><p>Before saves were even called for, we assumed the body to be a fake, and that the true coffin was concealed somewhere near by. Obviously trickery was going on, and that kind of trickery almost always includes magic. The detect magic was intended to inspect a various number of things. Perhaps the body was an illusion, perhaps it was polymorph. Perhaps the entrance to the real tomb was concealed somewhere near by. There were an unlimited number of things that our detect magic could have uncovered.</p><p></p><p>When the Cleric cast detect magic he said “what’s magical?” That’s when the DM said, “everything is magical, including the walls.” The choice of words is a minor detail but very important. If we were a bunch of metagamers, eagerly trying to override a Will save, the first words out of the Clerics mouth would have been “So, do we see the body is and illusion” or something to that effect. Instead he asked what in the room was magical, as the purpose of detect magic was by no means for the body alone. But since the body has been the focal point of this argument I can see how people made that mistake. And my vagueness in explaining things didn’t help either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moff_Tarkin, post: 4848483, member: 14175"] We didn’t cast detect magic to prove the body was an illusion. I fully understand how people made that assumption. In fact, I believe in one of my posts I claimed the detect magic was to spot illusion or trickery. “or trickery” being a key part that people seemed to have ignored. Before saves were even called for, we assumed the body to be a fake, and that the true coffin was concealed somewhere near by. Obviously trickery was going on, and that kind of trickery almost always includes magic. The detect magic was intended to inspect a various number of things. Perhaps the body was an illusion, perhaps it was polymorph. Perhaps the entrance to the real tomb was concealed somewhere near by. There were an unlimited number of things that our detect magic could have uncovered. When the Cleric cast detect magic he said “what’s magical?” That’s when the DM said, “everything is magical, including the walls.” The choice of words is a minor detail but very important. If we were a bunch of metagamers, eagerly trying to override a Will save, the first words out of the Clerics mouth would have been “So, do we see the body is and illusion” or something to that effect. Instead he asked what in the room was magical, as the purpose of detect magic was by no means for the body alone. But since the body has been the focal point of this argument I can see how people made that mistake. And my vagueness in explaining things didn’t help either. [/QUOTE]
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