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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 849814" data-attributes="member: 111">I don't see "mouse" listed in the MM, but here's a toad and a rat, and from these I'll do a mouse:ToadDiminutive AnimalHit Dice: 1/4 d8 (1 hp)Initiative: +1 (Dex)Speed:    5 ft.AC: 15 (+4 size, +1 Dex)Attacks:    -Damage: Face/Reach: 1 ft. by 1 ft./0 ft.Special Attacks:    -Special Qualities:    -Saves: Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +2Abilities: Str 1, Dex 12, Con 11, Int 1, Wis 14, Cha 4Skills:  Hide +21, Listen +5, Spot +5Feats:  -<The rest really does not apply at all to a PC>Rat Tiny AnimalHit Dice: 1/4 d8 (1 hp)Initiative: +2 (Dex)Speed:     15 ft., climb 15 ft.AC:     14 (+2 size, +2 Dex)Attacks:    Bite +4 meleeDamage: Bite 1d3-4    Face/Reach: 2 1/2 ft. by 2 1/2 ft./0 ft.Special Qualities:    Scent    Saves:     Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +1Abilities: Str 2, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 2Skills:    Balance +10, Climb +12, Hide +18, Move Silently +10Feats Weapon FIness - Bite        -From these two and from AWAKEN, I come up with the following (I think you might want to modify the mouse to be more like "Redwall" or "Stuart Little" so that it could use items, but that's up to you):Mouse PCDiminutive Animal (smaller than a rat, but not smaller than a toad)Hit die by class as normal (Ignoring it's hit die as it is 1 or less, as normal for monster PCs.  Note that I did not include the bonus 2HD from awaken - since this animal will be a PC, that did not seem appropriate.  You could add them in and still be ECL 0 considering the size and net negative modifers to his stats.)Initiative - Normal (adjusted by Dex, etc.)Speed 15ft., climb 15ft. (Same as the rat - it could possibly be 10 if you think mice should be slower than rats))AC Base 14 (+4 Size)Attacks By animal HD for the bite (+ Dex bonus from weapon finesse), normal by class otherwiseDamage : Bite 1d3-5 or by weapon ("-5" to make it weaker than a rat bite)Face/Reach: 1 ft. by 1 ft./0 ft.Special Qualities: ScentSaves:  No racial bonusesNote: Ability score adjustments are found by taking 10 from the ability score in the MM.  I adjusted the MM score by AWAKEN which gives average intelligence and +1 cha (well, +1.5 average, round down)Abilities:  -8 Str; +5 Dex; +0 Con, +0 Int, +2 Wis, -7 ChaNote: Skiils are as per Rat with ability bonuses/penalties backed out of themSkills (Racial Bonuses): Balance +8, Climb +16, Hide +8, Move Silently +8 Racial Feat: Weapon Finesse - BiteThis looks to me like an ECL 0 character.  Stats come out at a net of -3 physical and -5 mental, making up for any other class benefits.It's not "official," but it's as close as I could come.</blockquote>

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