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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mattcolville" data-source="post: 851913" data-attributes="member: 1300">I'm making a Mouse race that has the -8 to Str but no penalty to Chr. I'm making it ECL 2. Frankly I think that intelligent mice, as a race, should be able to have normal charisma. I'd like to get Weapon Finesse out of the ECL2 mouse package, as well as low-light vision, and maybe something else. I feel like, even with normal charisma, a Mouse is not ECL 2, but I'd rather err on the side of caution. I'm asking my GM to grant me the ability to ignore the Improved Evasion requirement for Scramble. Or, hell, maybe mice have evasion and improved evasion. Man, that'd be nice. I'd have to find some sort of precedent for that, and I don't think I'll be able to. *shrug* Worth a try, though.I'll have to take a look at other ECL 2 races and see what they're like so I have a yardstick by which to judge what to give my Mouse Race.</blockquote>