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<blockquote data-quote="Noumenon" data-source="post: 5069260" data-attributes="member: 70102">Yeah, it's a lot to ask for.&nbsp; I love skill challenges in 4E.&nbsp; They encourage imagination, they let me DM noncombat encounters with crunch instead of fluff, and I've got this new <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/270938-survivor-skill-challenge-try-make-round-three.html" target="_blank">Survivor Skill Challenge</a> idea to try out.&nbsp; I'm going to be ditching the 3.5 skill system entirely and giving all characters 4E skills so I can do skill challenges in 3E.The sticking point is at high level.&nbsp; (It's my first high-level campaign starting at 17th level -- I really shouldn't be getting this ambitious.)&nbsp; Normally I let people use up a spell slot for +2 or +4 to the check, just like 4E challenges sometimes let you use a healing surge.&nbsp; But in the case of a spell like miracle, that just doesn't seem to cover it.The specific skill challenge I want to build is constructing a cathedral to Pelor under a time limit -- another high level cleric will be trying to construct one first.&nbsp; How to make it seem like a real competition is yet another overambitious idea.&nbsp; But you guys always come through -- that's why I just became a subscriber here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Noumenon, post: 5069260, member: 70102"] Yeah, it's a lot to ask for. I love skill challenges in 4E. They encourage imagination, they let me DM noncombat encounters with crunch instead of fluff, and I've got this new [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/270938-survivor-skill-challenge-try-make-round-three.html]Survivor Skill Challenge[/url] idea to try out. I'm going to be ditching the 3.5 skill system entirely and giving all characters 4E skills so I can do skill challenges in 3E. The sticking point is at high level. (It's my first high-level campaign starting at 17th level -- I really shouldn't be getting this ambitious.) Normally I let people use up a spell slot for +2 or +4 to the check, just like 4E challenges sometimes let you use a healing surge. But in the case of a spell like [i]miracle[/i], that just doesn't seem to cover it. The specific skill challenge I want to build is constructing a cathedral to Pelor under a time limit -- another high level cleric will be trying to construct one first. How to make it seem like a real competition is yet another overambitious idea. But you guys always come through -- that's why I just became a subscriber here. [/QUOTE]

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