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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NoOneofConsequence" data-source="post: 626733" data-attributes="member: 5400">It's not the system it's the playersThat being said, I think there is a particular breed of DnD player who Tracey Hickman (in that article) described as "forensic dungeoneers". The kinds of people who make Artax and Yeagar of Nodwick fame seem positively altruistic.It seems that EofN plays with a group like these. All I can say is - find some other players. We're not all "forensic dungeoneers". Hell in my current campaign we have to remind ourselves to check the bodies of our enemies for treasure. We have actually forgotten to loot the bodies on at least one occasion, because we were there on a rescue, not a dungeon hack.[gratuitous pimp]To see what our campaign is like, left click on the link in my sig line.[/gratuitous pimp]</blockquote>