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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 627464" data-attributes="member: 2020">To ZouronPosted by Zouron  Heroic and DnD is much more a matter of the players then DnD in my experience, I myself is not exactly one to be the coward normally, which I am learning to the bones currently, playing a paladin (in my version ;-) ) whom has a severe problem with his party as they are somewhat less willing to risk themselves then he is.  Comment  Hey there, Zouron.  Nice to see you again, my friend!  Folks, meet one of the players of the IR.  A good player, all around, IR or face-to-face.  Zouron, though, what calamity has befallen you?!  A PALADIN?  You, playing a paladin?  Where are your evil necromancers (one of which conquered Chult, Halruaa, Dambrath, Luirien, and Var the Golden to create a vast empire of dark wizards and undead warriors) ?  Well, the old saying that it's time for a change, applies here, I guess.  You are now into paladins, and I'm starting with the evil necromancers.  LOL!  I still say the DM has to encourage heroism.  Yeah, the players have to want it too, but the DM runs the show, ya know!  (well, at least, he THINKS he does, and half the time it's actually true.)  Posted  and as for normal characters... don't think I have to many of those (anyone think zouron the dark in the IR was just your average self preserving john doe? hehe),   Comment  I would say there is NO such thing as a normal character.    I certainly hope not.  As for Zouron the Dark, Archmage of the Magocracy, he was not normal, but he WAS normal for the IR (Gods help the poor Forgotten Realms setting.  You folks should read what we did to that campaign ... (chuckles))  Posted  but some people are not as willing to risk their characters,   Comment  And some are gunshy, from too many lost characters.  Yeah, the agony of defeat is ... well, agonizing.  Still, the chance should be there for the taking, if the bold player desires it ...  PostedI am not sure there are all that many people (of course some excepted no doubt!) who thinks it is wise smart or intelligent to be a hero, superheroes in much game discussion I been in are almost considered a derrogating term which pretty much means being stupid beyond belief charging into hopeless battles one will loss and if you win then because you are a munchkin or some similar thing.  Comment  Ok, I gotta say something I feel really strongly about here.  THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMART HERO.  THEY ARE ALL DUMMIES.  There.  I said it.  (Paladins should have a maximum allowed Intelligence of 6, you know.)  After all, anyone who needlessly risks his or her life, and gets himself or herself killed in some gruesome way, for no reason (read:  it didn't save the land, didn't help the King, didn't aid his or her friends, and otherwise was meaningless) has got to be stupid, no?    Now that we have that matter settled, that Intelligence is separate from heroism, we can get on with heroism.  (I suppose Peter Jackson's Aragorn would slug me for saying that, but then I am willing to bet a lot of people think Aragorn would be pretty stupid, if he tried those stunts using 20 sided dice and not foretold endings created by the film industry.)  (Please never tell a paladin I said the above!  I would not wish to be hacked into mincemeat by an angry paladin!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  )  Yet ... intelligence is not what it's about.  It never was.  Heroism is ... well, heroism.  Intelligence, or whether a hero is intelligent or not intelligent, or whether he is doing stupid things or smart things, is less relevant to me than whether he is heroic.  Posted  This I guess is just not an age of heroism overall, doesn't stop me personally, cause rpg (and DnD) is an adventure and darn it if I am gonna miss out because I withdrew once to many times!  Comment  Cheers, Zouron.  Enjoy yourself.  I see you are having a good time, so go for it!  As for our Real World, what can I say?  I'm no hero, and will leave heroics to those who wish to buck the system, which encourages other things ... cynicism and mundanity seem to rule our lives in Reality.</blockquote>

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