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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9601126" data-attributes="member: 7026594">I think some of his advice we have to take as being tongue in cheek hyperbole or designate as obviously dumb, such as references to employing bolts from the blue or invisible mummies to deal with recalcitrant players, rather than having adult conversations with them. It's really notable that none of the DMing advice in the 1e DMG involves sitting down and having a respectful talk about mutual expectations and fun.&nbsp; Part of why Jennell Jaquays' <a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59661&amp;start=60" target="_blank">work on the 2e Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide</a> is still so respected is that it gives such advice.[ATTACH=full]398070[/ATTACH]Monty Haulism may have been a blight at some tables, but never at any of mine, in part because I think we took Gary's words too seriously.&nbsp; The first time, as a teenager, I played a high level AD&amp;D convention game where the DM allowed folks to bring characters of any level, the DM was nonplussed at how underequipped my brother's and my characters were, but wished us good luck.&nbsp; I'll agree that, say, Wishes must have been WAY too common in Gary's games given the absolutely absurd rules for raising ability scores with them in AD&amp;D, but the consequence I saw in play of taking his advice seriously is that I think I saw one Wish in play ever, in all the years I played AD&amp;D in the 80s and 90s.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9601126, member: 7026594"] I think some of his advice we have to take as being tongue in cheek hyperbole or designate as obviously dumb, such as references to employing bolts from the blue or invisible mummies to deal with recalcitrant players, rather than having adult conversations with them. It's really notable that none of the DMing advice in the 1e DMG involves sitting down and having a respectful talk about mutual expectations and fun. Part of why Jennell Jaquays' [URL='https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59661&start=60']work on the 2e Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide[/URL] is still so respected is that it gives such advice. [ATTACH type="full" size="1170x336"]398070[/ATTACH] Monty Haulism may have been a blight at some tables, but never at any of mine, in part because I think we took Gary's words too seriously. The first time, as a teenager, I played a high level AD&D convention game where the DM allowed folks to bring characters of any level, the DM was nonplussed at how underequipped my brother's and my characters were, but wished us good luck. I'll agree that, say, Wishes must have been WAY too common in Gary's games given the absolutely absurd rules for raising ability scores with them in AD&D, but the consequence I saw in play of taking his advice seriously is that I think I saw one Wish in play ever, in all the years I played AD&D in the 80s and 90s. [/QUOTE]

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