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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9659479" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I don't know the quote you refer to, the closest I know of is on page 8 where it talks extensively about why they use the term level, including some of the things you mention, and says the term is "prevalent among existing players". Nowhere does he say "we" that I see.</p><p></p><p>He also stated in the preface:</p><p><em>"The whole of ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS was a protect which involved varying degrees of my thought, imagination, and actual working time over a period of more than a year and one-half. Because of other demands, the project was perforce set aside for a day or a week or even longer, making it hard to get back to."</em></p><p></p><p>No I agree, it is not written in a vacuum, and he had significant playtesting and experience from many people that had a bearing on the text he wrote. But it is still written by him and the kind of wording you cite is exactly WHY it should not be considered a collective work.</p><p></p><p>As a comparison, Thomas Paine wrote <em>"Common Sense"</em> and drew his observations from numerous Patriots and contemporary theories and events, but he still wrote it and <em>Common Sense</em> is Paine's work alone, despite the others that influenced him or thought similarly or were otherwise involved in the Patriot movement. This is contrasted with the "<em>Declaration of Independance"</em> which was largely written by Thomas Jefferson some 6 months later but was a collaborative work of many authors.</p><p></p><p>IMO the same is true when comparing core 1E AD&D vs any other edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9659479, member: 7030563"] I don't know the quote you refer to, the closest I know of is on page 8 where it talks extensively about why they use the term level, including some of the things you mention, and says the term is "prevalent among existing players". Nowhere does he say "we" that I see. He also stated in the preface: [I]"The whole of ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS was a protect which involved varying degrees of my thought, imagination, and actual working time over a period of more than a year and one-half. Because of other demands, the project was perforce set aside for a day or a week or even longer, making it hard to get back to."[/I] No I agree, it is not written in a vacuum, and he had significant playtesting and experience from many people that had a bearing on the text he wrote. But it is still written by him and the kind of wording you cite is exactly WHY it should not be considered a collective work. As a comparison, Thomas Paine wrote [I]"Common Sense"[/I] and drew his observations from numerous Patriots and contemporary theories and events, but he still wrote it and [I]Common Sense[/I] is Paine's work alone, despite the others that influenced him or thought similarly or were otherwise involved in the Patriot movement. This is contrasted with the "[I]Declaration of Independance"[/I] which was largely written by Thomas Jefferson some 6 months later but was a collaborative work of many authors. IMO the same is true when comparing core 1E AD&D vs any other edition. [/QUOTE]
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