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<blockquote data-quote="Westwind" data-source="post: 4222650" data-attributes="member: 3241"><p>One of the things I like about hybrid classes is you can respec and enjoy an totally different aspect of the game. Tired of healing with your Shaman? Try out melee or caster dps for a day. Obviously, if you're raiding this isn't always an option, but it explains all the variation in the talent trees.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good in principle, but there are only so many roles out there. Anyone who remember running MC with a Paladin back in the day will remember 5-minute buffs. Spending the entire fight decursing and rebuffing is a lot less fun than healing/tanking/crusader striking.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EQ alpha (or maybe it was beta?) had collision for about 1 day and it was a disaster. Also, tanking then becomes an issue of reflexes and not strategy/gear/talents. As many posters have pointed out, making mobs "smart" will kill the fun (and the healers). Blizz has done a lot with the aggro mechanic to keep things interesting. As a hunter, I'm all for raid bosses with aggro resets--the more Misdirections needed, the better.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aggro dumps make DPS classes harder to it, in effect. Healers/tanks soloing is an issue, I'll agree there. Although, I've seen some Prot Pallys solo amazingly well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's the carrot to continue to play and pay your subscription fee then? If new content didn't offer new rewards, I'd spend all my time in Winterspring since I love that zone's theme. I think the axiom of skill>gear>class>race is essentially correct (arena aside). Gear is important, and I can see how that's frustrating to some, but improving gear is a major incentive to keep playing the game.</p><p></p><p>And a quick word to all the Retadins who have posted: I lobbied hard to get a Retadin added to our raiding core and it's been fantastic. Keeping Judgement of Wisdom (and Light and Imp. Crusader) up on the boss has made a huge difference in my dps. I can skip Fel Mana Pots in favor of Haste Pots, never have to switch to Aspect of the Viper, I crit more often, etc. And I will find some way to build a retadin in 4e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Westwind, post: 4222650, member: 3241"] One of the things I like about hybrid classes is you can respec and enjoy an totally different aspect of the game. Tired of healing with your Shaman? Try out melee or caster dps for a day. Obviously, if you're raiding this isn't always an option, but it explains all the variation in the talent trees. Good in principle, but there are only so many roles out there. Anyone who remember running MC with a Paladin back in the day will remember 5-minute buffs. Spending the entire fight decursing and rebuffing is a lot less fun than healing/tanking/crusader striking. EQ alpha (or maybe it was beta?) had collision for about 1 day and it was a disaster. Also, tanking then becomes an issue of reflexes and not strategy/gear/talents. As many posters have pointed out, making mobs "smart" will kill the fun (and the healers). Blizz has done a lot with the aggro mechanic to keep things interesting. As a hunter, I'm all for raid bosses with aggro resets--the more Misdirections needed, the better. Aggro dumps make DPS classes harder to it, in effect. Healers/tanks soloing is an issue, I'll agree there. Although, I've seen some Prot Pallys solo amazingly well. What's the carrot to continue to play and pay your subscription fee then? If new content didn't offer new rewards, I'd spend all my time in Winterspring since I love that zone's theme. I think the axiom of skill>gear>class>race is essentially correct (arena aside). Gear is important, and I can see how that's frustrating to some, but improving gear is a major incentive to keep playing the game. And a quick word to all the Retadins who have posted: I lobbied hard to get a Retadin added to our raiding core and it's been fantastic. Keeping Judgement of Wisdom (and Light and Imp. Crusader) up on the boss has made a huge difference in my dps. I can skip Fel Mana Pots in favor of Haste Pots, never have to switch to Aspect of the Viper, I crit more often, etc. And I will find some way to build a retadin in 4e. [/QUOTE]
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