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<blockquote data-quote="lukelightning" data-source="post: 3395722" data-attributes="member: 9745">You see, there is your problem. Don't expect players to do things just for your story. D&amp;D is a game first, a story second.&nbsp; One of my pet peeves is bardic knowledge...so many DMs just use it as a crutch for their stories, basically using it as a way to keep the plot going and nothing else. Hooray, you've got a class feature that is useless! It would be like giving paladins and knights a class feature &quot;Sent on Quests.&quot;Perhaps your players sensed this. Not to say that was your intention, but perhaps that was their worry; bardic lore should be useful, not just &quot;you know that the Necklace of Power needs to be thrown in the Geyser of Destruction in order to slay the Dark Lord.&quot; That's not really lore, that's the plot of the game. The lore part would be useful info like &quot;you know that the Dark Lord can sense when the necklace is worn. You know he has demonic fire monsters guarding the geyser&quot; etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lukelightning, post: 3395722, member: 9745"] You see, there is your problem. Don't expect players to do things just for your story. D&D is a game first, a story second. One of my pet peeves is bardic knowledge...so many DMs just use it as a crutch for their stories, basically using it as a way to keep the plot going and nothing else. Hooray, you've got a class feature that is useless! It would be like giving paladins and knights a class feature "Sent on Quests." Perhaps your players sensed this. Not to say that was your intention, but perhaps that was their worry; bardic lore should be useful, not just "you know that the Necklace of Power needs to be thrown in the Geyser of Destruction in order to slay the Dark Lord." That's not really lore, that's the plot of the game. The lore part would be [i]useful[/i] info like "you know that the Dark Lord can sense when the necklace is worn. You know he has demonic fire monsters guarding the geyser" etc. [/QUOTE]

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