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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 4790799" data-attributes="member: 9026">Rhun - I actually find dragonfire adepts to be underpowered compared to warlocks.The aoe on his attack form isn't huge, and it's short range.  The warlock with a single invocation can fire up to 250' away, wheras the adept's invocation merely lets him participate in a party that has a melee character.The breath effects don't increase his damage(Until much later), they only alter it in the same way warlock invocations do (Change element, add 'sickness save', etc).Reflex save vs Touch Attack: Very few Creatures/Characters have a good touch AC, so the warlock is almost guaranteed to hit, whereas the average for a save is 50/50.The adept has less invocations, and they're for the most part not as powerful/useful as the warlock ones.Also Ironically, the warlock (Long range) can wear armour, wheras the dragonfire adept(who MUST be short range to use his attack form) cannot.A 6th level warlock would be much scarrier than this adept.(No offense, Renau1g)The dragonfire adept is essentially a mage whose only offensive spell is a close range aoe.</blockquote>