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<blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 3321941" data-attributes="member: 2855"><p>This post is to announce the ICE will <strong>NOT</strong> be participating in the ENnies this year.</p><p></p><p>It boils down to a couple of main reasons why:</p><p></p><p>1) The ENnies have begun emulating the Origins Awards. One of the primary reasons that many fans lost faith in the Origins Awards was the inclusion of products in categories where they did not seem to fit. This happened last year with the Shackled City Adventure Path being included in Best Setting as well as Best Module. So long as this can happen, ICE cannot support the ENnies. The ENnies needs clear and concise rules regarding submissions to prevent this from happening in the future.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry, but IMO those categories, that match up with sales categories, should not allow cross-entries. Products should be limited to the one that best matches the way they are marketed. The other categories, the ones like best catography and best artwork, can have products be listed in multiple categories as they refer to an aspect of the product not the whole product like the marketing categories of Best Adventure Module and Best Campaign Setting and so forth.</p><p></p><p>2) The ENnies are not an industry wide award, they are a d20 award that happens to allow other games to be looked at. There is no way to avoid this, not so long as the ENnies refuse to sever their ties with EN World. They pull their judges from here, they do their voting here, the judges hold their discussions here. By tying themselves to EN World they are ensuring an ingrained, though likely unintentional, bias towards d20.</p><p></p><p>There is nothing stopping the ENnies from setting up their own forums (there are some excellent and robust free forum software out there that they could use), but they elect not to. I have been told for several years running now that the ENnies is seeking to become independent from EN World, and ICE supported the ENnies because of that declared intent of independence, and yet I still see absolutely no movement in that direction.</p><p></p><p>The Gaming Report blurb spent more time talking about voting than about how a person could apply to become an ENnies judge and even that part was hidden from the front page blurb, even though the announcement title was "Judge Selection Begins". Nor did the link actually take people to the page where it gives infor about judge selection. It takes them to the ENnies home page, and there is nothing on it indicating where to go from there....</p><p></p><p>Add to this, that only site on which I have seen anything regarding ENnies judge selection, by those in charge of the ENnies, is this site (last year it was at least mentioned on rgp.net and had a thread dedicated to it). Apparently the ENnies don't want to be an independent from EN World.</p><p></p><p>While I am sure that I could nit-pick and find more reasons, the above are more than enough for ICE to no long participate in the ENnies, at least not until some changes are made to the overall system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rasyr, post: 3321941, member: 2855"] This post is to announce the ICE will [b]NOT[/b] be participating in the ENnies this year. It boils down to a couple of main reasons why: 1) The ENnies have begun emulating the Origins Awards. One of the primary reasons that many fans lost faith in the Origins Awards was the inclusion of products in categories where they did not seem to fit. This happened last year with the Shackled City Adventure Path being included in Best Setting as well as Best Module. So long as this can happen, ICE cannot support the ENnies. The ENnies needs clear and concise rules regarding submissions to prevent this from happening in the future. I am sorry, but IMO those categories, that match up with sales categories, should not allow cross-entries. Products should be limited to the one that best matches the way they are marketed. The other categories, the ones like best catography and best artwork, can have products be listed in multiple categories as they refer to an aspect of the product not the whole product like the marketing categories of Best Adventure Module and Best Campaign Setting and so forth. 2) The ENnies are not an industry wide award, they are a d20 award that happens to allow other games to be looked at. There is no way to avoid this, not so long as the ENnies refuse to sever their ties with EN World. They pull their judges from here, they do their voting here, the judges hold their discussions here. By tying themselves to EN World they are ensuring an ingrained, though likely unintentional, bias towards d20. There is nothing stopping the ENnies from setting up their own forums (there are some excellent and robust free forum software out there that they could use), but they elect not to. I have been told for several years running now that the ENnies is seeking to become independent from EN World, and ICE supported the ENnies because of that declared intent of independence, and yet I still see absolutely no movement in that direction. The Gaming Report blurb spent more time talking about voting than about how a person could apply to become an ENnies judge and even that part was hidden from the front page blurb, even though the announcement title was "Judge Selection Begins". Nor did the link actually take people to the page where it gives infor about judge selection. It takes them to the ENnies home page, and there is nothing on it indicating where to go from there.... Add to this, that only site on which I have seen anything regarding ENnies judge selection, by those in charge of the ENnies, is this site (last year it was at least mentioned on rgp.net and had a thread dedicated to it). Apparently the ENnies don't want to be an independent from EN World. While I am sure that I could nit-pick and find more reasons, the above are more than enough for ICE to no long participate in the ENnies, at least not until some changes are made to the overall system. [/QUOTE]
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