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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 3322320" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Now to comment on the Judges. I don't remember every judge in the past, but I do know that most of them do not love d20 3E exclusively. Several fo them, every year, were fans of other systems as well as d20.</p><p></p><p>So I am sure those judges that I remember fought for a fair assessment of games that were not d20, and after talking to several of them this past GenCon they won their fight for fairness.</p><p></p><p>I know of two other judge nominees so far this year. I believe they are fair, and that they are not "D20 3E Rules all" fanboys. I know I am not a fanboy either. Not even of my favorite system, Castles and Crusades. Like the other judge nominess I realize no one system is the "best".</p><p></p><p>Plus I play several other systems besides C&C. This past year alone we have played EPIC rpg, HARN, L5R 3E (excellent improvements, BTW), Shadowrun 4E, M&M 2E, and my SIEGE version of MegaTraveller.</p><p></p><p>So if your concerned about Judges being biased vote for those of us who play multiple systems. Shouldn't be a hard thing to do. Especially if all the various communities get together and vote to make sure "fan boy" judges are not voted in.</p><p></p><p>Plus the 5 judges only nominate the top 5 products of each category. The fans have to make sure their favorite wins top honors, and I think Shadowrun winning top honors last year proves that ENWorld/3E fans do not have the influence on the voting that many seem to think they have.</p><p></p><p>That, or the ENWorld fan voters are much fairer than they are being given credit for.</p><p></p><p>Either way, withdrawing from the ENNIEs is not the answer. Voicing your concerns and getting them addressed is the first way to go. Withdrawal is for when the ENNIEs Board convinces you they aren't giving you fair consideration.</p><p></p><p>Withdrawing without giving them the chance to address your concerns before they even have their new judges is unfair, not to mention a bit less than professional.</p><p></p><p>April is the deadline for product submission eleigibility. Tell the ENNIE Board your concerns, then when they have their Judge, they can address all submitted concerns and issues, and see what kind of ways they can be addressed. </p><p></p><p>Once they announce their final categories and definitions and guidelines under which the 2007 nominations will be judged, that is when you decide how fair or unfair the ENNIE Awards are going to be for your product, and others. That is when you decide to boycott, or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 3322320, member: 10177"] Now to comment on the Judges. I don't remember every judge in the past, but I do know that most of them do not love d20 3E exclusively. Several fo them, every year, were fans of other systems as well as d20. So I am sure those judges that I remember fought for a fair assessment of games that were not d20, and after talking to several of them this past GenCon they won their fight for fairness. I know of two other judge nominees so far this year. I believe they are fair, and that they are not "D20 3E Rules all" fanboys. I know I am not a fanboy either. Not even of my favorite system, Castles and Crusades. Like the other judge nominess I realize no one system is the "best". Plus I play several other systems besides C&C. This past year alone we have played EPIC rpg, HARN, L5R 3E (excellent improvements, BTW), Shadowrun 4E, M&M 2E, and my SIEGE version of MegaTraveller. So if your concerned about Judges being biased vote for those of us who play multiple systems. Shouldn't be a hard thing to do. Especially if all the various communities get together and vote to make sure "fan boy" judges are not voted in. Plus the 5 judges only nominate the top 5 products of each category. The fans have to make sure their favorite wins top honors, and I think Shadowrun winning top honors last year proves that ENWorld/3E fans do not have the influence on the voting that many seem to think they have. That, or the ENWorld fan voters are much fairer than they are being given credit for. Either way, withdrawing from the ENNIEs is not the answer. Voicing your concerns and getting them addressed is the first way to go. Withdrawal is for when the ENNIEs Board convinces you they aren't giving you fair consideration. Withdrawing without giving them the chance to address your concerns before they even have their new judges is unfair, not to mention a bit less than professional. April is the deadline for product submission eleigibility. Tell the ENNIE Board your concerns, then when they have their Judge, they can address all submitted concerns and issues, and see what kind of ways they can be addressed. Once they announce their final categories and definitions and guidelines under which the 2007 nominations will be judged, that is when you decide how fair or unfair the ENNIE Awards are going to be for your product, and others. That is when you decide to boycott, or not. [/QUOTE]
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