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<blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 3324301" data-attributes="member: 2855"><p>sigh.... I never said other games couldn't win, I just said that there was an innate bias towards d20 because the awards are hosts/discussed/presented/whatever here.</p><p></p><p>I posted here Morrus, because regardless of where I post, this is the DE FACTO home of the forums. Whether you want to see that or not. Besides, I am not referring to discussion regarding the Ennies themselves by fans, I am talking about discussions by those in charge of the ENnies. This is the defacto place for it.</p><p></p><p>Here is where the ENnies has its hidden forum for the judges to discuss entrants. Here is where everything important to the ENnies is done.</p><p></p><p>If you refuse to remove the blinders to see that it weakens the overall value of the awards to be closely associated with a single system, then so be it. I will stop discussing it here. </p><p></p><p>BUt, so long as the ENnies are all happening here rather than on their own site, I will refer to them as the "d20 Fan Awards" as that is the reality of what they are.</p><p></p><p>BSF - you might not be interested in that appearance of bias, but then again you don't have to be. Publishers do have to be concerned about it (and for d20 publishers, that appearance works for them), and I have had one fan foaming at the mouth at Treebore over being required to come to a d20 fan site to vote for what is supposedly an industry-wide award, that I have to be concerned about it as well. I received comments last year also.</p><p></p><p>I am sure that other publishers have as well.</p><p></p><p>EN World is an excellent site, and many of the folks that I have dealt with here are extremely well read when it comes to games and they are usually quite polite when other show up, however, that portion of EN Worlders is not representative of every single person on this site.</p><p></p><p>Enough... As I said above, I give up talking about this topic here. I made my points. Take them for what you will (you will anyways).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rasyr, post: 3324301, member: 2855"] sigh.... I never said other games couldn't win, I just said that there was an innate bias towards d20 because the awards are hosts/discussed/presented/whatever here. I posted here Morrus, because regardless of where I post, this is the DE FACTO home of the forums. Whether you want to see that or not. Besides, I am not referring to discussion regarding the Ennies themselves by fans, I am talking about discussions by those in charge of the ENnies. This is the defacto place for it. Here is where the ENnies has its hidden forum for the judges to discuss entrants. Here is where everything important to the ENnies is done. If you refuse to remove the blinders to see that it weakens the overall value of the awards to be closely associated with a single system, then so be it. I will stop discussing it here. BUt, so long as the ENnies are all happening here rather than on their own site, I will refer to them as the "d20 Fan Awards" as that is the reality of what they are. BSF - you might not be interested in that appearance of bias, but then again you don't have to be. Publishers do have to be concerned about it (and for d20 publishers, that appearance works for them), and I have had one fan foaming at the mouth at Treebore over being required to come to a d20 fan site to vote for what is supposedly an industry-wide award, that I have to be concerned about it as well. I received comments last year also. I am sure that other publishers have as well. EN World is an excellent site, and many of the folks that I have dealt with here are extremely well read when it comes to games and they are usually quite polite when other show up, however, that portion of EN Worlders is not representative of every single person on this site. Enough... As I said above, I give up talking about this topic here. I made my points. Take them for what you will (you will anyways). [/QUOTE]
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