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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 3327145" data-attributes="member: 9053">To put it mildly, I am flabbergasted at this problem.I am coming to this situation being a longtime ICE fan (back to V1 of Arms Law) and as a longtime resident on ENWorld. I vote on the ENnies every year, and have enjoyed their growth and development considerably. I was surprised at some of the choices last year, but I think that represents the fact that the RPG industry doesn't always agree with me on what the best products are. But I'm surprised at the attitude that the ENnies and ENWorld in general are just about D20 products. The D20 market is almost nonexistent at this point, and we had a non D20 product (Shadowrun) win the top honor last year. What's the problem? I own Shadowrun 4, and I don't see a huge crossover market between it and D20. What I do know, is that Shadowrun has a serious fanbase, and that fanbase was motivated to come out and vote for their favorite game. That's about it.As far as Shackled City, I can see the concern at the game getting two awards, but it won those awards based on popular vote. Is the award somehow tainted because it was a D&D adventure, and most ENWorlders play D&D? To my mind, no, it wasn't, because almost everyone who plays RPGs is familiar with D&D. Not everyone loves it, of course, and the ENnies were discussed heavily over at RPGNet, which can hardly be called D&D friendly. Many people came over to vote based on those discussions. Why did Shackled City win? Because people thought it was the best product in both categories, and that's it. Did it get a leg up because it was a D&D game? Of course it did, but that's because D&D is far and away the most popular RPG in the world.Now finally, the notion that all anyone plays here at ENWorld is D&D or some variant should also be addressed. It's pure nonsense. Most of the discussion here at ENWorld is about D&D, but I know many ENWorlders who play a huge variety of games. The times when I have referenced the Hero system, or Call of C'thuhlu (two of my favorite games) I have always had people chime in with responses. When I voted last year, I took that into account with my votes and certainly didn't vote only for D&D products. Heck, I didn't vote for the Shackled City even though I purchased it and am currently running it...I hadn't seen it by the time of voting last year.So I'm really not sure where the complaint is...color me more than a little confused.--Steve</blockquote>

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