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<blockquote data-quote="GwydapLlew" data-source="post: 3329300" data-attributes="member: 40373"><p>Except that the system /did/ follow its own rules and categories. Those rules and categories are established every year by the judges. Regardless of bias or perception, I just don't understand how you can say that the guidelines were circumvented (your words) when the guidelines were followed to the letter.</p><p></p><p>The judges determine the judging criteria and categories each year. The Shackled City Hardcover was determined by the judges - using the rules established for the judges - to fall into multiple categories.</p><p></p><p>It's like saying that <em>Rome</em> could only be nominated for Best Mini-Series <strong>or</strong> Best Historical Drama. If it's both, why can't it compete in both? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above. They didn't bend any rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How is this not accountable? If the people voting on the ENnies (you know, the fans of the games) did not consider Shackled City a better product than the others in those categories, it would have won. I don't see a lack of accountability - It's not like Lisa and Erik flew over to England and offered Russ a hundred dollars if he'd allow SCAP into multiple categories.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Have you been reading the policies? If someone wants to be a judge, they self-nominate themselves. They are then voted on by <strong>anyone who cares about selecting the judges for the ENnies</strong>. Not members of ENWorld. Not Russ. Not Denise. The voters are everyone who cares to vote.</p><p></p><p>If the group of judges tends to have certain familiar faces, is it because of some behind-the-scenes dealing, or because those judges a) apply for the position, b) have done a good job in the position, and c) are voted to rejoin the judges the following year?</p><p></p><p>How can you get more populist than a self-nominating, anyone-who-wants-to-regardless-of-any-other-criteria-can-vote-on-the-nominees system?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GwydapLlew, post: 3329300, member: 40373"] Except that the system /did/ follow its own rules and categories. Those rules and categories are established every year by the judges. Regardless of bias or perception, I just don't understand how you can say that the guidelines were circumvented (your words) when the guidelines were followed to the letter. The judges determine the judging criteria and categories each year. The Shackled City Hardcover was determined by the judges - using the rules established for the judges - to fall into multiple categories. It's like saying that [i]Rome[/i] could only be nominated for Best Mini-Series [b]or[/b] Best Historical Drama. If it's both, why can't it compete in both? See above. They didn't bend any rules. How is this not accountable? If the people voting on the ENnies (you know, the fans of the games) did not consider Shackled City a better product than the others in those categories, it would have won. I don't see a lack of accountability - It's not like Lisa and Erik flew over to England and offered Russ a hundred dollars if he'd allow SCAP into multiple categories. Have you been reading the policies? If someone wants to be a judge, they self-nominate themselves. They are then voted on by [b]anyone who cares about selecting the judges for the ENnies[/b]. Not members of ENWorld. Not Russ. Not Denise. The voters are everyone who cares to vote. If the group of judges tends to have certain familiar faces, is it because of some behind-the-scenes dealing, or because those judges a) apply for the position, b) have done a good job in the position, and c) are voted to rejoin the judges the following year? How can you get more populist than a self-nominating, anyone-who-wants-to-regardless-of-any-other-criteria-can-vote-on-the-nominees system? [/QUOTE]
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