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<blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 3329506" data-attributes="member: 9225"><p>I can see Tim Dugger's concerns in that ENP has an interest in promoting the pdf market in general and the d20 brand -- and keeping things centered on this site does help do that. Now my opinion is that this is unavoaidable, but "unavoidable" is not the same thing s "nonexistant," so instead of subjecting Tim to a virtual stoning, perhaps someone should have simply admitted that this sort of thing is probably unavoidable and left it at that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The lack of consistent standards from year to year really was highlighted by Shackled City.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Did anybody ever buy AAGAD memberships for this reason? In any event, the OAs have a public phase as well, for noms (and there was weighted voting for winners, but I don't know what it's like now). I don't see much difference in total meaningful participation; it's just loaded differently.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, but what I'm hearing around here are big denials of bias. Plus, the composition of the judges strikes me as being problematic as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The OAs was also damaged by vigorous Active-Aggressive, very open fighting. Robin Laws is a very polite man. I do think the ENnies are better than the alternatives, but this is not necessarily high praise.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: And with this, I'm done. Since responses have featured everything from insults to veiled threats, I think this demonstrates exactly the quality of discourse that's the problem in the first place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eyebeams, post: 3329506, member: 9225"] I can see Tim Dugger's concerns in that ENP has an interest in promoting the pdf market in general and the d20 brand -- and keeping things centered on this site does help do that. Now my opinion is that this is unavoaidable, but "unavoidable" is not the same thing s "nonexistant," so instead of subjecting Tim to a virtual stoning, perhaps someone should have simply admitted that this sort of thing is probably unavoidable and left it at that. The lack of consistent standards from year to year really was highlighted by Shackled City. Did anybody ever buy AAGAD memberships for this reason? In any event, the OAs have a public phase as well, for noms (and there was weighted voting for winners, but I don't know what it's like now). I don't see much difference in total meaningful participation; it's just loaded differently. Yeah, but what I'm hearing around here are big denials of bias. Plus, the composition of the judges strikes me as being problematic as well. The OAs was also damaged by vigorous Active-Aggressive, very open fighting. Robin Laws is a very polite man. I do think the ENnies are better than the alternatives, but this is not necessarily high praise. EDIT: And with this, I'm done. Since responses have featured everything from insults to veiled threats, I think this demonstrates exactly the quality of discourse that's the problem in the first place. [/QUOTE]
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