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<blockquote data-quote="Wystan" data-source="post: 3334171" data-attributes="member: 21422"><p>I will post my short overview.....</p><p></p><p>1. I have heard of ICE, I have looked at their products. I have never used one of their products, but I did vote for one due to seeing it here at ENworld and liking what I read that they produced. (I actively reported one poster for snarkiness towards ICE earlier in this mess). I did not like the snarkiness of the ICE representative where he said (Paraphrased) "your award is bad because you make the rules, I want to make rules too and until I can I am going home, call me when I can make rules".</p><p></p><p>2. I am not truely a published industry person but I have a credit on some small PDF's and have been paid for 2 others that have yet to see print. I think I have made maybe $50 total. However I would not be able to be a judge as one of them was a Seeds PDF that was produced this year.</p><p></p><p>3. The ENnies (Notice the Capital EN there) is an EN award run by the owner of ENworld and is done at a net Loss for him/ENworld.</p><p></p><p>4. I see new items when I check the ENnies voting as it is not just a popularity contest. The judges read books I have never ever heard of and would have never heard of if they did not nominate it as one of their top 5. This shows me that the smaller publishers have a chance. </p><p></p><p>5. D20 bias....I am playing Vampire in a weekly game right now, have a LOVE for Top Secret SI, started with V&V, Own at least 10 different RPG systems including Shadowrun, Spycraft, Top Secret SI, Hero, Gurps, Paladium...etc. I play and read all of these but D20 seems to be the most common, why, it is the most prevalent. It is the easiest to find player for, and it has the most material. Notice that no-where in there did I say it was my favorite. </p><p></p><p>6. Voting.....I like the system as it is, codified rules in the RPG industry is a BAD IDEA, we are a community of rules lawyers... Any RULE can and will be used to play the system, so a game book must have 42 pages of Setting to be a setting book and 40 pages of adventure to be an adventure book and 24 pages of Races to be a Races book, well there is a possible 3 category book from EVERY publisher next year that wants to see their name in multiple categories.</p><p></p><p>7. Friendliness/Snarkiness - I have been on ENworld a lot longer than the date next to my name implies, I have been here since 3.0 was basically a well known to be true Rumor. I see many many instances of people arguing in this thread that you would not normally see, but I feel that the mod's have done a good job of keeping it to a set (LOW) level of snarkiness considering some of the attitudes here. ENworld is just about the most friendly forum I have ever seen. </p><p></p><p>I guess I rambled a lot, but I wanted to show what a FAN thought of the ENworld ENnies process.</p><p></p><p>Thanks</p><p>Bill C.</p><p>Wystan</p><p>Relian</p><p>Thuran</p><p>(possibly others)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wystan, post: 3334171, member: 21422"] I will post my short overview..... 1. I have heard of ICE, I have looked at their products. I have never used one of their products, but I did vote for one due to seeing it here at ENworld and liking what I read that they produced. (I actively reported one poster for snarkiness towards ICE earlier in this mess). I did not like the snarkiness of the ICE representative where he said (Paraphrased) "your award is bad because you make the rules, I want to make rules too and until I can I am going home, call me when I can make rules". 2. I am not truely a published industry person but I have a credit on some small PDF's and have been paid for 2 others that have yet to see print. I think I have made maybe $50 total. However I would not be able to be a judge as one of them was a Seeds PDF that was produced this year. 3. The ENnies (Notice the Capital EN there) is an EN award run by the owner of ENworld and is done at a net Loss for him/ENworld. 4. I see new items when I check the ENnies voting as it is not just a popularity contest. The judges read books I have never ever heard of and would have never heard of if they did not nominate it as one of their top 5. This shows me that the smaller publishers have a chance. 5. D20 bias....I am playing Vampire in a weekly game right now, have a LOVE for Top Secret SI, started with V&V, Own at least 10 different RPG systems including Shadowrun, Spycraft, Top Secret SI, Hero, Gurps, Paladium...etc. I play and read all of these but D20 seems to be the most common, why, it is the most prevalent. It is the easiest to find player for, and it has the most material. Notice that no-where in there did I say it was my favorite. 6. Voting.....I like the system as it is, codified rules in the RPG industry is a BAD IDEA, we are a community of rules lawyers... Any RULE can and will be used to play the system, so a game book must have 42 pages of Setting to be a setting book and 40 pages of adventure to be an adventure book and 24 pages of Races to be a Races book, well there is a possible 3 category book from EVERY publisher next year that wants to see their name in multiple categories. 7. Friendliness/Snarkiness - I have been on ENworld a lot longer than the date next to my name implies, I have been here since 3.0 was basically a well known to be true Rumor. I see many many instances of people arguing in this thread that you would not normally see, but I feel that the mod's have done a good job of keeping it to a set (LOW) level of snarkiness considering some of the attitudes here. ENworld is just about the most friendly forum I have ever seen. I guess I rambled a lot, but I wanted to show what a FAN thought of the ENworld ENnies process. Thanks Bill C. Wystan Relian Thuran (possibly others) [/QUOTE]
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