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<blockquote data-quote="FourthBear" data-source="post: 4040455" data-attributes="member: 55846">Who says the Ice Archon is the &quot;embodiment of cold&quot;.&nbsp; It could be *an* embodiment of cold, and nowhere near the top of the heap.&nbsp; It could also be a magical creature that happens to be made of magical ice and using magical cold effects.&nbsp; Couldn't the Spirit of Winter be the true embodiment of cold?&nbsp; How's about the various gods of ice?&nbsp; Or perhaps Cold is a fundamental force that needs no embodiment.You could justify an Ice Archon as utterly immune to cold.&nbsp; You could justify an Ice Archon as not utterly immune to cold.&nbsp; It appears 4e is going with the latter.&nbsp; Wouldn't it be cool if the Ice Archon swaggered up to the dragon, confident in its cold resistance, only to be cracked and destroyed by the dragon's freezing breath, a much more potent source of cold than its own?&nbsp; Or a fire elemental having cringe back from the King of Fire's blazing rages, which are too much for even *its* firey nature?&nbsp; If you slap immunities around too much, I think you lose just as much potential fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FourthBear, post: 4040455, member: 55846"] Who says the Ice Archon is the "embodiment of cold". It could be *an* embodiment of cold, and nowhere near the top of the heap. It could also be a magical creature that happens to be made of magical ice and using magical cold effects. Couldn't the Spirit of Winter be the true embodiment of cold? How's about the various gods of ice? Or perhaps Cold is a fundamental force that needs no embodiment. You could justify an Ice Archon as utterly immune to cold. You could justify an Ice Archon as not utterly immune to cold. It appears 4e is going with the latter. Wouldn't it be cool if the Ice Archon swaggered up to the dragon, confident in its cold resistance, only to be cracked and destroyed by the dragon's freezing breath, a much more potent source of cold than its own? Or a fire elemental having cringe back from the King of Fire's blazing rages, which are too much for even *its* firey nature? If you slap immunities around too much, I think you lose just as much potential fun. [/QUOTE]

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