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<blockquote data-quote="tomtill" data-source="post: 4042090" data-attributes="member: 37444"><p>It amazes me that this thread is still alive. </p><p></p><p>I thought someone was just looking for a plausible explanation of how a creature based on an ice elemental could not be immune to cold damage.</p><p></p><p>As has been said many times, if you are looking for an explanation based on magic—well magic has its own rules. If they are consistently applied, that should be enough.</p><p></p><p>If you are looking for an explanation based on physics, you don't have to look far.</p><p></p><p>It is a fact that any form of life requires movement, at the molecular level if nothing else.</p><p></p><p>It is a fact that at absolute zero, 0 degrees Kelvin, there is no movement.</p><p></p><p>It is a fact that what we refer to as temperature, or hot or cold, simply refers to the kinetic energy state of the item in question. In other words, movement at the molecular level.</p><p></p><p>A creature at 0 degrees Kelvin would be completely immobile and uninteresting, other than sucking the heat out of its surroundings. Thus any cold based elemental that moves could be made colder.</p><p></p><p>Life as we know it can only function within a limited range of temperature and other environmental conditions. This range can vary depending on the species. The most logical extension of our real world knowledge into the realm of fantasy would dictate that indeed, even elemental based creatures would operate within a range of acceptable conditions. Outside that range it would be damaged, just like any other creature.</p><p></p><p>So, perhaps you liked the flavor of the immunities. That's fine. That's an opinion. You are entitled to it. You could argue that the range of acceptable conditions for your particular elemental based creatures are broad enough that the amount of damage encountered would never be enough to push it outside that range. You could argue that it's magic, and the elemental can absorb the energy like others absorb nutrients. You could argue any number of things that support your desire to have elemental based creatures immune. That's ok.</p><p></p><p>But, there is no point arguing that elemental resistances are somehow less defensible than elemental immunities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomtill, post: 4042090, member: 37444"] It amazes me that this thread is still alive. I thought someone was just looking for a plausible explanation of how a creature based on an ice elemental could not be immune to cold damage. As has been said many times, if you are looking for an explanation based on magic—well magic has its own rules. If they are consistently applied, that should be enough. If you are looking for an explanation based on physics, you don't have to look far. It is a fact that any form of life requires movement, at the molecular level if nothing else. It is a fact that at absolute zero, 0 degrees Kelvin, there is no movement. It is a fact that what we refer to as temperature, or hot or cold, simply refers to the kinetic energy state of the item in question. In other words, movement at the molecular level. A creature at 0 degrees Kelvin would be completely immobile and uninteresting, other than sucking the heat out of its surroundings. Thus any cold based elemental that moves could be made colder. Life as we know it can only function within a limited range of temperature and other environmental conditions. This range can vary depending on the species. The most logical extension of our real world knowledge into the realm of fantasy would dictate that indeed, even elemental based creatures would operate within a range of acceptable conditions. Outside that range it would be damaged, just like any other creature. So, perhaps you liked the flavor of the immunities. That's fine. That's an opinion. You are entitled to it. You could argue that the range of acceptable conditions for your particular elemental based creatures are broad enough that the amount of damage encountered would never be enough to push it outside that range. You could argue that it's magic, and the elemental can absorb the energy like others absorb nutrients. You could argue any number of things that support your desire to have elemental based creatures immune. That's ok. But, there is no point arguing that elemental resistances are somehow less defensible than elemental immunities. [/QUOTE]
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