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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 5881485" data-attributes="member: 17077">I disagree. One of the problems that 4e had was giving each and every class its own, entirely 100% unique list of powers/spells, even though many of them were basically the same power with a different name. This led to enormous wasted page count, entire books full of practically nothing but powers, and, IMO, alot of quantity over quality in power design, to make sure each class had enough powers.While I think each class should have some unique powers/spells, I don't see any problem with overlap. In addition to avoiding all of the problems I mentioned above, a smaller number of spells and powers in the game makes the system easier to master. Players and DMs can more easily familiarize themselves with a smaller number of spells, and then when they see that spell included in a class's spell list, they instantly have a good gauge of what that class is capable of, and only need to learn about those spells that are unique to that class, rather than ALL of them.I agree. In fact, I think it would be better if the Bard didn't have spells at all. They could have some magical music class abilities and such instead.I agree. If they are going to give Rangers and Paladins spells, I at least hope they will be optional.</blockquote>