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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LotsOfLore" data-source="post: 8090045" data-attributes="member: 6979126">No, it's hating on PF2 whilst not having actually tried it that makes them close minded.Me and my group played PF1, then PF2 came out. We tried it, it took us all of ONE session to realise how ridiculously better it is than the previous edition. We now very happily play PF2. End of story, no drama needed.I also love Starfinder and play it as much as I can even though it's not as refined rules-wise.I converted all my friends from 5e to pf2 even though I think 5e is a good edition and particularly well suited for casuals and children.</blockquote>