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<blockquote data-quote="Telas" data-source="post: 2107977" data-attributes="member: 20934">Not a bad idea.&nbsp; I generally DM a party of 6-8, and someone always blows a Hide or Move Check.&nbsp; It's really frustrating, because I usually leave a &quot;stealth option&quot; on most of my modules.&nbsp; How about everyone rolls against a DC15 (or whatever the DM decrees, see below), and you add/subtract 2 to the roll for every 5 points you make/fail the roll by?So your proverbial Half-Orc in full plate with no Dex rolls a 1, which modifies to a -5.&nbsp; He affects the Rogue's (or whoever's) roll by -8 points (15 - -5 = 20 / 5 = 4 x 2 = 8).&nbsp; Even if he rolls a 20, he can't positively affect the die roll positively.You could set the DC by determining what it would be if you assumed the listener &quot;took 10&quot;.&nbsp; So a critter with a +8 Listen requires you to beat a DC18.&nbsp; You don't need to tell the PCs what the DC is.This admittedly adds complication to the game, and I generally try to simplify things, but it occured to me when I read the idea....&nbsp; Telas</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Telas, post: 2107977, member: 20934"] Not a bad idea. I generally DM a party of 6-8, and someone always blows a Hide or Move Check. It's really frustrating, because I usually leave a "stealth option" on most of my modules. How about everyone rolls against a DC15 (or whatever the DM decrees, see below), and you add/subtract 2 to the roll for every 5 points you make/fail the roll by? So your proverbial Half-Orc in full plate with no Dex rolls a 1, which modifies to a -5. He affects the Rogue's (or whoever's) roll by -8 points (15 - -5 = 20 / 5 = 4 x 2 = 8). Even if he rolls a 20, he can't positively affect the die roll positively. You could set the DC by determining what it would be if you assumed the listener "took 10". So a critter with a +8 Listen requires you to beat a DC18. You don't need to tell the PCs what the DC is. This admittedly adds complication to the game, and I generally try to simplify things, but it occured to me when I read the idea.... Telas [/QUOTE]

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