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<blockquote data-quote="JPL" data-source="post: 9561263" data-attributes="member: 1964">I always like the idea of PCs who don't fit into the regular PC classes . . . especially the various thinky and talky professions (sages and courtiers and whatnot).What I'm looking at is a variant Rogue, with a scoop of the Expert sidekick class.So starting with Rogue . . .&nbsp; Hit Dice Die&nbsp; &nbsp; D8 per Rogue level&nbsp; &nbsp; That'll work.Saving Throws Proficiencies&nbsp; &nbsp; Dexterity and Intelligence&nbsp; Change to any two?&nbsp; Maybe even more, since the Expert is the guy who manages to survive stuff despite not having the resume?Skill Proficiencies&nbsp; &nbsp; Choose 4: Make it any four.Weapons Proficiencies&nbsp; &nbsp; Simple weapons and Martial weapons that have the Finesse or Light property&nbsp; Might just say simple weapons?Tool Proficiencies&nbsp; &nbsp; Thieves’ Tools&nbsp; Change to any one tool setArmor Training&nbsp; &nbsp; Light armor&nbsp; That'll work. Class features:1st&nbsp; Expertise - Totally appropriate. Sneak Attack - Replace with Helpful (Help action as a bonus action)Thieves’ Cant - Or any other languageWeapon Mastery -&nbsp; Thematically maybe hard to justify, but maaaaaybe.&nbsp; Or just give them the Lucky feat?&nbsp; 2ndCunning Action - Totally appropriate3rdRogue Subclass - Well here I am stumped, because developing subclassses is a hassle.&nbsp; Maybe just pick a feat, even if it's from the General list?Steady Aim -&nbsp; Thematically iffy.&nbsp; Maybe something that lets them Dodge as a bonus action?4th Ability Score Improvement&nbsp; - That works.5thCunning Strike - Replace with Coordinated Strike (When the expert uses its Helpful feature to aid an ally in attacking a creature, that target can be up to 30 feet away from the expert, and the expert can deal an extra 2d6 damage to it the next time the expert hits it with an attack roll before the end of the current turn). Uncanny Dodge&nbsp; --- all good &nbsp; So that'll get you started.&nbsp; Hell, maybe it's a five-level class, and then you either need to get some more formal adventuring skills or retire before the lifestyle catches up to you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JPL, post: 9561263, member: 1964"] I always like the idea of PCs who don't fit into the regular PC classes . . . especially the various thinky and talky professions (sages and courtiers and whatnot). What I'm looking at is a variant Rogue, with a scoop of the Expert sidekick class. So starting with Rogue . . . Hit Dice Die D8 per Rogue level [B]That'll work.[/B] Saving Throws Proficiencies Dexterity and Intelligence [B]Change to any two? Maybe even more, since the Expert is the guy who manages to survive stuff despite not having the resume?[/B] Skill Proficiencies Choose 4: [B]Make it any four.[/B] Weapons Proficiencies Simple weapons and Martial weapons that have the Finesse or Light property[B] Might just say simple weapons?[/B] Tool Proficiencies Thieves’ Tools [B]Change to any one tool set[/B] Armor Training Light armor [B]That'll work. [/B] Class features: 1st Expertise -[B] Totally appropriate. [/B] Sneak Attack - [B]Replace with Helpful (Help action as a bonus action)[/B] Thieves’ Cant - [B]Or any other language[/B] Weapon Mastery - [B]Thematically maybe hard to justify, but maaaaaybe. Or just give them the Lucky feat? [/B] 2nd Cunning Action - [B]Totally appropriate[/B] 3rd Rogue Subclass - [B]Well here I am stumped, because developing subclassses is a hassle. Maybe just pick a feat, even if it's from the General list?[/B] Steady Aim - [B]Thematically iffy. Maybe something that lets them Dodge as a bonus action?[/B] 4th Ability Score Improvement - [B]That works.[/B] 5th Cunning Strike - [B]Replace with Coordinated Strike (When the expert uses its Helpful feature to aid an ally in attacking a creature, that target can be up to 30 feet away from the expert, and the expert can deal an extra 2d6 damage to it the next time the expert hits it with an attack roll before the end of the current turn). [/B] Uncanny Dodge --- [B]all good [/B] So that'll get you started. Hell, maybe it's a five-level class, and then you either need to get some more formal adventuring skills or retire before the lifestyle catches up to you. [/QUOTE]

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