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Idea on keeping Vancian casters from novaing
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<blockquote data-quote="ZombieRoboNinja" data-source="post: 5966819" data-attributes="member: 54843"><p>An old argument that got brought up in the most recent Rule-of-Three article is how to balance traditional Vancian-style casters (with daily spells) against classes with mostly at-will or encounter powers. The problem is that those classes tend to "go nova" and blow all their spells every encounter, and then either sit on their butts or demand a rest. (Thus the 15-minute adventuring day.)</p><p></p><p>Here's a quick and obvious fix: let wizards get daily spells a la 3e, but they can only cast X spells without taking a short rest to recover. (I.e., only x spells per encounter.)</p><p></p><p>X would need to be playtested, but maybe Con mod + 1/3 level (minimum 2)?</p><p></p><p>That way the wizard can still ration out his spells however he wants (blowing all his high-level spells early) but still has SOME daily resources later on.</p><p></p><p>Similar adjustments could be made for other non-Vancian classes, obviously: psions can only spend Y magic points without a short rest, for example. </p><p></p><p>Offhand, this seems like an option that would preserve the "feel" of Vancian casters while solving a balance problem. It's very easy to justify plotwise, too: spellcasting is tiring, and even if you have a bunch of spells memorized, you can't just rattle off 40 in a row without a break. I honestly can't think of many wizard/cleric battles, even in D&D novels, that wouldn't fit in this new mechanic: even if Elminster can spellcast nonstop for 100 pages, well, he's like level 40.</p><p></p><p>What do people think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZombieRoboNinja, post: 5966819, member: 54843"] An old argument that got brought up in the most recent Rule-of-Three article is how to balance traditional Vancian-style casters (with daily spells) against classes with mostly at-will or encounter powers. The problem is that those classes tend to "go nova" and blow all their spells every encounter, and then either sit on their butts or demand a rest. (Thus the 15-minute adventuring day.) Here's a quick and obvious fix: let wizards get daily spells a la 3e, but they can only cast X spells without taking a short rest to recover. (I.e., only x spells per encounter.) X would need to be playtested, but maybe Con mod + 1/3 level (minimum 2)? That way the wizard can still ration out his spells however he wants (blowing all his high-level spells early) but still has SOME daily resources later on. Similar adjustments could be made for other non-Vancian classes, obviously: psions can only spend Y magic points without a short rest, for example. Offhand, this seems like an option that would preserve the "feel" of Vancian casters while solving a balance problem. It's very easy to justify plotwise, too: spellcasting is tiring, and even if you have a bunch of spells memorized, you can't just rattle off 40 in a row without a break. I honestly can't think of many wizard/cleric battles, even in D&D novels, that wouldn't fit in this new mechanic: even if Elminster can spellcast nonstop for 100 pages, well, he's like level 40. What do people think? [/QUOTE]
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