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Idea on keeping Vancian casters from novaing
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<blockquote data-quote="ZombieRoboNinja" data-source="post: 5967082" data-attributes="member: 54843"><p>I agree that the Next system is already helping the situation a lot just by including at-will cantrips, and as someone else mentioned, I don't really see "novaing" being a problem in the playtest. Later levels might be another story; if a level 20 wizard has 40+ spells prepared, like in 3e, and the high-level ones do 10x the damage of a cantrip, the wizard will be very tempted indeed to nova and rest. (If "spells prepared" is limited and the cantrips scale, this is less of an issue.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly; I'm not the biggest fan of Vancian magic, but I'm satisfied just playing another spellcaster and letting wizards continue to be wizards... but I'd still like Vancian casters to be balanced appropriately, so that my friends who DO play them fit in well with the power curve of the rest of the group.</p><p></p><p>Also, as I mentioned in the OP, Vancian casters aren't the only ones with lots of daily resources to "nova" with. A daily MP-based system (like psions) can have the same risk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZombieRoboNinja, post: 5967082, member: 54843"] I agree that the Next system is already helping the situation a lot just by including at-will cantrips, and as someone else mentioned, I don't really see "novaing" being a problem in the playtest. Later levels might be another story; if a level 20 wizard has 40+ spells prepared, like in 3e, and the high-level ones do 10x the damage of a cantrip, the wizard will be very tempted indeed to nova and rest. (If "spells prepared" is limited and the cantrips scale, this is less of an issue.) Exactly; I'm not the biggest fan of Vancian magic, but I'm satisfied just playing another spellcaster and letting wizards continue to be wizards... but I'd still like Vancian casters to be balanced appropriately, so that my friends who DO play them fit in well with the power curve of the rest of the group. Also, as I mentioned in the OP, Vancian casters aren't the only ones with lots of daily resources to "nova" with. A daily MP-based system (like psions) can have the same risk. [/QUOTE]
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