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<blockquote data-quote="Mirrorrorrim" data-source="post: 8995551" data-attributes="member: 7040132">Some think it is less than ideal for the word &quot;Level&quot; to have multiple definitions for PC use. While I am not bothered, I like my fiction magic to make sense narratively, and also like when that occurs in my TTRPGs. Here are the two most common uses of &quot;Level&quot; for PC use:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class level&nbsp; 1-20</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell level&nbsp; 1-9</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">(I'm not even counting all the other ways &quot;level&quot; is used outside of PC use, like dungeon levels)</li>
</ul>I was thinking that characterizing magic as part of the &quot;Weave&quot; is something that can be leaned into narratively. What if spell levels were described instead as &quot;spell layers&quot; within the Weave. &quot;Layers&quot; can exist in a &quot;Weave.&quot; Layer also has the right alliteration and syllables as &quot;level&quot; so it still fits into the familiar patterns of speech we use it for. Below are some ways it can be used narratively:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellcasting: &quot;At 1st level, your Wizard can reach and manipulate the Weave of magic that infuses existence. However at this level of experience and training, they can only connect to the first &quot;layer&quot; of the Weave. Over time, with experience, they can learn to access and manipulate the threads of magic within deeper/higher &quot;layers&quot; of the Weave that let them cast more powerful spells.&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;I cast my 1st-layer spell, Cure Wounds!&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;I cast Fireball, but I reach into the 4th layer of the Weave to enhance its power, so I'm casting it as a 4th-layer spell.&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;I really want to access the 9th layer of the Weave some day and I will do anything in my power to experience that mystery first hand. Now let's kill that evil wizard so I can take his spellbook's secrets for my own. I wonder which layer of the Weave he can reach?&quot;</li>
</ul>Thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mirrorrorrim, post: 8995551, member: 7040132"] Some think it is less than ideal for the word "Level" to have multiple definitions for PC use. While I am not bothered, I like my fiction magic to make sense narratively, and also like when that occurs in my TTRPGs. Here are the two most common uses of "Level" for PC use: [LIST] [*]Class level 1-20 [*]Spell level 1-9 [*](I'm not even counting all the other ways "level" is used outside of PC use, like dungeon levels) [/LIST] I was thinking that characterizing magic as part of the "Weave" is something that can be leaned into narratively. What if spell levels were described instead as "[B]spell layers[/B]" within the Weave. "Layers" can exist in a "Weave." Layer also has the right alliteration and syllables as "level" so it still fits into the familiar patterns of speech we use it for. Below are some ways it can be used narratively: [LIST] [*]Spellcasting: "At 1st level, your Wizard can reach and manipulate the Weave of magic that infuses existence. However at this level of experience and training, they can only connect to the first "layer" of the Weave. Over time, with experience, they can learn to access and manipulate the threads of magic within deeper/higher "layers" of the Weave that let them cast more powerful spells." [*]"I cast my 1st-layer spell, Cure Wounds!" [*]"I cast Fireball, but I reach into the 4th layer of the Weave to enhance its power, so I'm casting it as a 4th-layer spell." [*]"I really want to access the 9th layer of the Weave some day and I will do anything in my power to experience that mystery first hand. Now let's kill that evil wizard so I can take his spellbook's secrets for my own. I wonder which layer of the Weave he can reach?" [/LIST] Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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