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Message: <blockquote data-quote="boB S" data-source="post: 3628717" data-attributes="member: 53280">"...Java my group can't use, for instance, because it causes too much "clog" on several of the computers in my group. It's too resource heavy to have the plug-in and the program running..."Thanks for the info! This last quote from your earlier post is what had me somewhat puzzled. The Java people have worked hard to minimize the memory footprint of the Java Runtime Environment, though I haven't had time to see what's going on with the recently released Java 6. At least through Java 5 Win98 SE is still supported. Even with the browser plug-in Sun's site claims that only 48 MB of RAM are needed and at least a Pentium 166 MHz CPU or better. They add, "Very large programs may require more RAM for adequate performance." Even your old PC exceeds the minimum requirements. This suggests some sort of configuration problems, probably with whatever application you were trying to run that was Java-based. Of course, even this only goes to prove your other point: That a person should NOT have to go through cyber-gymnastics to get the d**n program to work like it is supposed to!But then again it could still be a problem meeting the minimum requirements for the Java version the application uses. For instance only certain version browsers will work with a given version Java plug-in, etc. But it should be, as you aptly point out, the programmer's responsiblilty that you are at least clearly aware of what minimum requirements you must meet to run their application and to provide installations of these prerequisites or at least links (I don't like using the link approach as often the linked site is difficult to decipher what you must do next to install the whatever widget you need.) to these.Anyway I think Java can be a viable option for programming our pipe-dream RPG program for even modest machines IF the programmer's installation routine is competently put together.</blockquote>

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