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<blockquote data-quote="RUMBLETiGER" data-source="post: 6359315" data-attributes="member: 6674868"><p>There are only 4 prestige classes I'm aware of, and no base classes, that give you access to 2nd level spells with less than 3 levels.</p><p></p><p>Blighter grants you 2nd level Divine spells with 2 class levels. Druid base class though, and won't fit what it sounds like is the rest of your build.</p><p></p><p>Ur-Priest grants you 2nd level Divine spells with 2 levels in the class. It's not usable for someone who's worshiping a god already.</p><p></p><p>Now, <a href="http://dndtools.eu/classes/chameleon/" target="_blank">Chameleon</a> from Races of Destiny grants you 2nd level Divine spells with only 1 level dip into the class. It's only available to Humans and Dopplegangers, perhaps your DM will let you flex that part. </p><p></p><p>Finally, <a href="http://dndtools.eu/classes/divine-crusader/" target="_blank">Divine Crusader</a> from Complete Divine grants you 2nd level Divine spells with 2 levels. You need a BAB of +7 to qualify, but it otherwise sounds like it would fit.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you could help us understand your build so far? A Battlesmith requires BAB+5, while a Hammer of Moridin requires BAB +7, so neither of these classes are you entering right away. Perhaps a single level dip into Chameleon or 2 levels of Divine Crusader will get you what you're looking for. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, since Hammer of Moridin doesn't progress or benefit spellcasting in any way, I really don't understand what that requirement is in there for. Is there any way of asking your DM to remove or replace that requirement with something better suited?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RUMBLETiGER, post: 6359315, member: 6674868"] There are only 4 prestige classes I'm aware of, and no base classes, that give you access to 2nd level spells with less than 3 levels. Blighter grants you 2nd level Divine spells with 2 class levels. Druid base class though, and won't fit what it sounds like is the rest of your build. Ur-Priest grants you 2nd level Divine spells with 2 levels in the class. It's not usable for someone who's worshiping a god already. Now, [URL="http://dndtools.eu/classes/chameleon/"]Chameleon[/URL] from Races of Destiny grants you 2nd level Divine spells with only 1 level dip into the class. It's only available to Humans and Dopplegangers, perhaps your DM will let you flex that part. Finally, [URL="http://dndtools.eu/classes/divine-crusader/"]Divine Crusader[/URL] from Complete Divine grants you 2nd level Divine spells with 2 levels. You need a BAB of +7 to qualify, but it otherwise sounds like it would fit. Maybe you could help us understand your build so far? A Battlesmith requires BAB+5, while a Hammer of Moridin requires BAB +7, so neither of these classes are you entering right away. Perhaps a single level dip into Chameleon or 2 levels of Divine Crusader will get you what you're looking for. Honestly, since Hammer of Moridin doesn't progress or benefit spellcasting in any way, I really don't understand what that requirement is in there for. Is there any way of asking your DM to remove or replace that requirement with something better suited? [/QUOTE]
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