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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fuindordm" data-source="post: 1768067" data-attributes="member: 5435">This skill system looks nice and tight, very well thought out!  A couple of comments/ideas...It doesn't seem necessary to separate scale walls from climb.I actually quite like the fact that 3E/3.5E has differentiated these kinds ofinteractions.  I'd like to see a way to preserve the difference somehow.  Maybejust separating Bluff out into its own skill would be enough, since that one hasa couple of other specific uses such as feinting and creating a diversion to hidethat are very good for rogues.I would separate Handle Animal and Ride (Cha and Dex, repectively), since Ridehas so many combat-oriented uses and the two obvious depend on different stats.Handle animal could be made more attractive by folding in the Animal Empathy special ability.Finally, why no Use Magic Device?  I think this skill is really cool and a great way for characters without spells to still have some affinity with magic.You also missed Sense Motive, and Disguise, more very useful skills that I think reallyneed to be on their own (although Disguise might be rolled into Bluff).This is a really elegant idea.What's still missing is a way for characters to specialize in one skill, so I would stillmake it an unnamed bonus (that way they can still boost a skill by taking a feat).I would also change skill focus back to a +2, since so many skills are now 2 or 3 skillsfolded into one, and scrap all the +2/+2 feats from the simplified game.So here's the skill list that makes sense to me (sorted by dependent stat)Alertness (Spot, Search, Listen), wisSurvival, wisHeal, wisSense Motive, wisAthletics (Climb, Swim, Jump) strSneak (Hide, Move Silently) dexAcrobatics (Tumble, Balance) dexSleight of Hand, dexRide dexInfluence (Intimidate, Diplomacy) chaBluff chaHandle Animal chaUse Magic Device chaDisguise chaTricks and Traps (Open Locks, Disable Device, Craft complex devices), intDecipher Script, intSpellcraft, intKnowledge, intI think this list also allows for more variety among rogues--the basic thief type gets Alertness, Sneak, Acrobatics, Sleight of Hand, Tricks&Traps, and Bluff, but I can easily imagine swapping Sleight of Hand for Athletics and T&T for Influence to make a swashbuckler or Acrobatics and Bluff for UMD and Decipher Script for more an adventuring arcane scholar.The mechanic you've come up with is simple and sweet, though.  You can make a unique-feeling character in seconds without agonizing over where to put every last skill point, and I really like that.Following the thread with interest.--Ben</blockquote>

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