Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 1693950" data-attributes="member: 15999">The dragon might know about wildshape and natural spell, but "how to see that" is to cast True Seeing.  Out of our CR 9 adult black's range (casts as a third-level sorcerer).  What are the visible signs of Natural Spell?   Detect magic is not particularly useful in this case.  It's a 60' range, and it only covers a 60-degree arc (not sure how that applies in 3-D).  The first round of concentration, you only get the presence or absence of magical auras, not their strength. In other words, if I've tossed a few light stones in opaque bags here and there in the swamp beforehand, or cheap magic items, I can make the dragon waste two rounds on each; one to scan the arc, and one on concentrating to determine the number of auras and strength of the most powerful aura.  In the first round, a light stone gives the same result as a Holy Avenger.Also, with the limited range, Detect Magic wouldn't catch a caster who cast Baleful Polymorph and then moved away.  In fact, by placing false auras, you could create a useful diversion.  Assuming no caster feats, a DC 19 Baleful Polymorph (+4 Wis) has about a 9% chance to work (60% chance of beating the SR, 15% chance of the dragon blowing the save).  That's not bad at all for a single character trying to take out an equal-CR dragon with a single spell.  Alternatively, Call Lightning Storm is useful for staying out of sight and hammering the beast.  If you have Augment Summoning, a giant constrictor snake or a pair of giant crocodiles (with Animal Growth in either case) would be a challenge even for a dragon.</blockquote>

Verification