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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1696596" data-attributes="member: 9002">*sigh* Unless people are using different spot and listen check modifiers than the ones listed in the DMG, it is not going to be trivially easy for a dragon to identify a shapeshifted druid coming towards it in, for example, crocodile or fishy form.&nbsp; Or any other animal form, for example an owl at night, or whatever.And if the dragon does spot it, so what?&nbsp; The druid gets blasted, maybe, with a breath weapon, doing no long-term damage, and the druid leaves.&nbsp; And comes back a few hours later to try again in another form, or just goes back the next day, fully healed.&nbsp; Repeat.&nbsp; With care, the Druid will be able to get close enough to cast a spell every day or two.&nbsp; Then the dragon retaliates, and the Druid leaves for the day.&nbsp; Repeat.&nbsp; It's the Druid's home.&nbsp; The Druid heals a lot faster, has a lot more options, and can just wait for his chance.&nbsp; One of these days, the dragon fails a fort save and turns into a bunny, or gets blasted by one too many lightining bolts.&nbsp; Since the Druid always has Freedom of Movement running during these mini-attacks, the dreaded &quot;dragon grapple&quot; death is completely avoided.When time is on your side, you have a very powerful ally.&nbsp; Now, would the dragon flee at some point, after being harassed for a few weeks or months?&nbsp; Probably.&nbsp; But, if it's stubborn and not wise, maybe not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1696596, member: 9002"] *sigh* Unless people are using different spot and listen check modifiers than the ones listed in the DMG, it is not going to be trivially easy for a dragon to identify a shapeshifted druid coming towards it in, for example, crocodile or fishy form. Or any other animal form, for example an owl at night, or whatever. And if the dragon does spot it, so what? The druid gets blasted, maybe, with a breath weapon, doing no long-term damage, and the druid leaves. And comes back a few hours later to try again in another form, or just goes back the next day, fully healed. Repeat. With care, the Druid will be able to get close enough to cast a spell every day or two. Then the dragon retaliates, and the Druid leaves for the day. Repeat. It's the Druid's home. The Druid heals a lot faster, has a lot more options, and can just wait for his chance. One of these days, the dragon fails a fort save and turns into a bunny, or gets blasted by one too many lightining bolts. Since the Druid always has Freedom of Movement running during these mini-attacks, the dreaded "dragon grapple" death is completely avoided. When time is on your side, you have a very powerful ally. Now, would the dragon flee at some point, after being harassed for a few weeks or months? Probably. But, if it's stubborn and not wise, maybe not. [/QUOTE]

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