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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1703102" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>The six miles is where the druid sleeps, not where he's talking to fish. Naturally he'll have to do his recon closer to the dragon's lair. This shouldn't be too big a problem, since even a dragon's blindsense has it's limits.I respectfully suggest you take your own advice. At 10th-level, a druid can use <em>Tree Stride</em> to jump <em>ten times</em>. At 3000ft. a piece, that's 30,000ft, or roughly 6 miles.Me neither. How about you enlighten me?Considering <em>Tree Stride</em>, that's a 12 square mile area the dragon needs to check. Maybe someone with better math skills can figure out how long it would take the dragon to search that entire area, but off the cuff I'm guessing "a lot." He'd probably have to do nothing but search all day. He'd also probably still not find it, since the druid wouldn't sleep in the same place twice. He'd pick a different spot within the 12 square mile radius each night. And as far as the good spot check, I'm guessing the druid would use a camoflaged campsite, so it'd be the dragon's spot, vs. the druid's most-likely-maxed Survival skill. Plus the distance he's flying at. Plus the distance away from the site he is flying, unless he happens to get <em>very</em> lucky and fly directly over the druid's camp.If by "many" you mean "one", since only the <em>Wall of Thorns</em> would be foiled by a Ring of <em>Freedom of Movement</em>. Or maybe it won't even foil <em>that</em> plan, since a Ring of <em>Freedom of Movement</em> costs 40,000gp, over twice the value of an adult black dragon's entire horde.Wood has a hardness of 5 and 10hp per inch of thickness. Let's assume that a tree that could hold a druid would be, what?, 2 feet wide, so 24 inches, or 240 hp. An adult black dragon has a 12d4 acid breath weapon, for an average of 24 hit points per blast. Subtract 5 for hardness, and the dragon will have to breath roughly 13 times per tree to destroy it.Knocking a tree over does not destroy it.Eh?This is a DM call. It came up before on these boards (a druid wanted to be able to sleep as a shark, I think, while his companions slept on a ship), and most DMs on that thread would allow a druid (with a sufficiently long "charge" of wildshape) to sleep wildshaped. Some would even allow a druid to <em>combine</em> charges of wildshape to get an appropriately long period, though I balked at that. Still, at 10th-level a druid can expect 1 charge of wildshape which would last 10 hours, more than enough time to cover his rest period.</p><p></p><p>I agree, though, that a DM might disallow that. In that case, a camoflaged campsite 6 miles away will do just as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1703102, member: 707"] The six miles is where the druid sleeps, not where he's talking to fish. Naturally he'll have to do his recon closer to the dragon's lair. This shouldn't be too big a problem, since even a dragon's blindsense has it's limits.I respectfully suggest you take your own advice. At 10th-level, a druid can use [i]Tree Stride[/i] to jump [i]ten times[/i]. At 3000ft. a piece, that's 30,000ft, or roughly 6 miles.Me neither. How about you enlighten me?Considering [i]Tree Stride[/i], that's a 12 square mile area the dragon needs to check. Maybe someone with better math skills can figure out how long it would take the dragon to search that entire area, but off the cuff I'm guessing "a lot." He'd probably have to do nothing but search all day. He'd also probably still not find it, since the druid wouldn't sleep in the same place twice. He'd pick a different spot within the 12 square mile radius each night. And as far as the good spot check, I'm guessing the druid would use a camoflaged campsite, so it'd be the dragon's spot, vs. the druid's most-likely-maxed Survival skill. Plus the distance he's flying at. Plus the distance away from the site he is flying, unless he happens to get [i]very[/i] lucky and fly directly over the druid's camp.If by "many" you mean "one", since only the [i]Wall of Thorns[/i] would be foiled by a Ring of [i]Freedom of Movement[/i]. Or maybe it won't even foil [i]that[/i] plan, since a Ring of [i]Freedom of Movement[/i] costs 40,000gp, over twice the value of an adult black dragon's entire horde.Wood has a hardness of 5 and 10hp per inch of thickness. Let's assume that a tree that could hold a druid would be, what?, 2 feet wide, so 24 inches, or 240 hp. An adult black dragon has a 12d4 acid breath weapon, for an average of 24 hit points per blast. Subtract 5 for hardness, and the dragon will have to breath roughly 13 times per tree to destroy it.Knocking a tree over does not destroy it.Eh?This is a DM call. It came up before on these boards (a druid wanted to be able to sleep as a shark, I think, while his companions slept on a ship), and most DMs on that thread would allow a druid (with a sufficiently long "charge" of wildshape) to sleep wildshaped. Some would even allow a druid to [i]combine[/i] charges of wildshape to get an appropriately long period, though I balked at that. Still, at 10th-level a druid can expect 1 charge of wildshape which would last 10 hours, more than enough time to cover his rest period. I agree, though, that a DM might disallow that. In that case, a camoflaged campsite 6 miles away will do just as well. [/QUOTE]
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