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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5889637" data-attributes="member: 50895">Up front, just to say, I hate epic play - had a campaign that went up to 40th level as our last 3.5 hurrah, and I am glad it is over. I never want to go back... That said, Paizo has put two possible directions. One in the Core, that suggests you complete 20 levels of whatever class you are in + dip levels + prestige class levels, so you might end up with a 27th + level character doing it that way. This would work fine for me. The second Paizo suggestion was that Epic caps out at 36th level - as a nice round number to attach progressive abilities in sets to 2, 4, 6, 9 and 12 levels. It works out well mathematically. Build epic class features that follow that progression and it should work. (If Paizo ever formally tackles epic levels, they suggested this was the way they would go.) What I never want to see make a return from 3.0 Epic Handbook, most especially was Epic Spells. It was so loose, that over-powerful spells could be suggested, untested and utilized in game that breaks the game way too easily. Until a more reasonable method of Epic-fying spells comes about, I don't want to see that ever again. Some of the Epic feats in that book weren't bad, but feats are another slippery slope of mechanics to worry about in an Epic system. If Paizo puts out Epic rules for Pathfinder, I'll be eager to look, but still I will probably avoid Epic like the plague that it is. Besides I almost always get bored with a given character about 19th to 20th level anyway.</blockquote>

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