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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Mhoram" data-source="post: 5890167" data-attributes="member: 4789">The way I use Epic characters - There is only 1 class at epic level (Epic Hero). It gains some skills point, 1 HP, no attack or save bonus. And the only class feature is an Epic feat.I've made a number of new epic feats that can let a character sort of advance with old class abilities (not unlike the 10th level and higher spells work for mages, or to Hit and HP feats for fighters).Anything that raises a thing by X bonus (+1 hit, saves, +10 HP etc) in an area that came automatically with non epic classes the character can only take specific feat every 4 levels (Hit, Save, HP, + Skill points ect) - so someone can't get Attack bonus every level.The actual epic rules I have fit on two pages. Then a whole bunch of Epic feats. Use the OGL epic feats, and invent 10-20 pages of more feats - epic rules done.I toss Epic Spellcasting completely.Vareity and endless advancement are there, and not a whole lot of investment in time and resources for the epic PC by the company.  Just add an occasional Epic Monster booklet, and you are set. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>