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<blockquote data-quote="CubicsRube" data-source="post: 7342580" data-attributes="member: 6848185">There is a classic variant on team initiative. Have the monsters roll a single initiative, then have the plauers roll. Anyone who beats that can go, then the monsters, then all the players, then the monsters, then all the players, etc.There are a few class abilities and feats that give boosts to initiative that are still worthwhile under this method.You dont necessarily need to mitigate the swingyness as long as the players are aware of it and plan for it. Let them be tactical and chain moves.On the other hand, make monsters take the dodge action to be harder to hit for a round, or the help action to help their ally hit better, or rest a moment and quaff a potion (or maybe they have action surge!), or perhaps they run and call for reinforcements.If they down a pc, maybe they stsrt dragging him off for a meal, or for ransom, or whatever reason.If you think of things that hinder the party that aren't attacks, you can make a fight more challenging without necessarily being swingy</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CubicsRube, post: 7342580, member: 6848185"] There is a classic variant on team initiative. Have the monsters roll a single initiative, then have the plauers roll. Anyone who beats that can go, then the monsters, then all the players, then the monsters, then all the players, etc. There are a few class abilities and feats that give boosts to initiative that are still worthwhile under this method. You dont necessarily need to mitigate the swingyness as long as the players are aware of it and plan for it. Let them be tactical and chain moves. On the other hand, make monsters take the dodge action to be harder to hit for a round, or the help action to help their ally hit better, or rest a moment and quaff a potion (or maybe they have action surge!), or perhaps they run and call for reinforcements. If they down a pc, maybe they stsrt dragging him off for a meal, or for ransom, or whatever reason. If you think of things that hinder the party that aren't attacks, you can make a fight more challenging without necessarily being swingy [/QUOTE]

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