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<blockquote data-quote="nittanytbone" data-source="post: 2749922" data-attributes="member: 35709"><p>I see two options; the offensively oriented Two Weapon Fighter and the Defensive Oriented Bluffer.</p><p></p><p><strong>TWF</strong>:</p><p></p><p>For sneak attack to be effective, you really need Two Weapon Fighting. That means at least Dex 15 (Dex 17 for GWTF).</p><p></p><p>If you're deadset on heavy armor, you'll obviously want full plate mail. It needs to be mithril, both to cut your weight (probably be tough to get str higher than 14) and to boost the maximum allowed dex boost to AC (from 1 to 3, which lets you use all of your 17 dex). The problem is, that mithril heavy armor is expensive.</p><p></p><p>So, you'd want 17 Dex, Str and Con as high as possible, and then possibly dump mental stats...</p><p></p><p>Also, a tower shield probably isn't the best bet. It precludes TWF (and thus a lot of damage dealing potential) and has a max dex bonus allowed of +2. If you really want to boost AC as much as possible, you can invest in Improved Shield Bash and a nice magic shield.</p><p></p><p><strong>Bluffer</strong></p><p></p><p>You'll want Combat Expertise and Improved Feint, which means Int 13+. This meshes nicely with a skills based rogue.</p><p></p><p>Dex should be no higher than 12; your full plate armor only allows +1 bonus to dex.</p><p></p><p>Use a shield or tower shield in your off-hand. In combat, instead of full attacking, feint as a move action and attack as a standard. This precludes a lot of damage dealing potential, however, both from TWF and from iterative attacks.</p><p></p><p>You might want to take a level in Wizard with this route. You already have good int; It boosts your weak will save, gives you access to Truestrike (which can be used in heavy armor) and several other spells (focus on the ones without somatics), lets you use wands, and gets you a familiar, which can either boost a weak skill or your Fort/Ref saves.</p><p></p><p>Obviously you'll want a level -- maybe 2 -- of fighter to get the heavy armor proficiency.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nittanytbone, post: 2749922, member: 35709"] I see two options; the offensively oriented Two Weapon Fighter and the Defensive Oriented Bluffer. [B]TWF[/B]: For sneak attack to be effective, you really need Two Weapon Fighting. That means at least Dex 15 (Dex 17 for GWTF). If you're deadset on heavy armor, you'll obviously want full plate mail. It needs to be mithril, both to cut your weight (probably be tough to get str higher than 14) and to boost the maximum allowed dex boost to AC (from 1 to 3, which lets you use all of your 17 dex). The problem is, that mithril heavy armor is expensive. So, you'd want 17 Dex, Str and Con as high as possible, and then possibly dump mental stats... Also, a tower shield probably isn't the best bet. It precludes TWF (and thus a lot of damage dealing potential) and has a max dex bonus allowed of +2. If you really want to boost AC as much as possible, you can invest in Improved Shield Bash and a nice magic shield. [B]Bluffer[/B] You'll want Combat Expertise and Improved Feint, which means Int 13+. This meshes nicely with a skills based rogue. Dex should be no higher than 12; your full plate armor only allows +1 bonus to dex. Use a shield or tower shield in your off-hand. In combat, instead of full attacking, feint as a move action and attack as a standard. This precludes a lot of damage dealing potential, however, both from TWF and from iterative attacks. You might want to take a level in Wizard with this route. You already have good int; It boosts your weak will save, gives you access to Truestrike (which can be used in heavy armor) and several other spells (focus on the ones without somatics), lets you use wands, and gets you a familiar, which can either boost a weak skill or your Fort/Ref saves. Obviously you'll want a level -- maybe 2 -- of fighter to get the heavy armor proficiency. [/QUOTE]
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