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<blockquote data-quote="RogueJK" data-source="post: 126105" data-attributes="member: 170"><p>Actually, it wouldn't. </p><p></p><p>Your character has BAB +7 at 10th level. Lord Pendragon's character has BAB +6 at 8th level. He could then take 2 levels of Arcane Archer, bringing his BAB up to +8 at 10th level vs your +7. Conversely, if you dropped 2 of your fighter levels to take you down to 8th level, you would have +5 BAB vs. Lord Pendragon's +6. His will always be 1 higher than yours.</p><p></p><p>For saves, at 10th level, your character has:</p><p>Fortitude - 2+2+0+2+5= +11</p><p>Reflex - 0+2+0+0+2= +4</p><p>Will - 2+2+2+0+2= +8</p><p>Subtract the 2 fighter levels to take you down to 8th level, and you have Fort: +10, Ref: +3, Will +7</p><p></p><p>At 8th level, Pendragon's character has:</p><p>Fortitude - 4+0+3= +7</p><p>Reflex - 1+0+3= +4</p><p>Will - 1+3+3= +7</p><p>Add in the 2 levels of Arcane Archer to take him up to 10th level, and his final saves are Fort: +10, Ref: +7, Will +7</p><p></p><p>So, at 8th level, Lord Pendragon's character has a higher Reflex save, and the same Will save, and at 10th level, he has a much higher Reflex save, and is only 1 behind on Fortitude and Will.</p><p></p><p>For feats, if you remove 2 levels of Fighter to take you down to 8th level, you will have the same number of feats as he will. Conversely, if Pendragon adds 2 levels of Fighter, he would, again, have the same number of feats.</p><p></p><p>You might want to rethink your statement... At first glance, of course he would have higher BAB, Saves, and Feats. You are comparing your 10th level character to Pendragon's 8th level character. But when you really look at it, his character is better. The only thing that your character will be better at is Fortitude saves, but that comes at a cost of a lower Reflex save and a lower BAB.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RogueJK, post: 126105, member: 170"] Actually, it wouldn't. Your character has BAB +7 at 10th level. Lord Pendragon's character has BAB +6 at 8th level. He could then take 2 levels of Arcane Archer, bringing his BAB up to +8 at 10th level vs your +7. Conversely, if you dropped 2 of your fighter levels to take you down to 8th level, you would have +5 BAB vs. Lord Pendragon's +6. His will always be 1 higher than yours. For saves, at 10th level, your character has: Fortitude - 2+2+0+2+5= +11 Reflex - 0+2+0+0+2= +4 Will - 2+2+2+0+2= +8 Subtract the 2 fighter levels to take you down to 8th level, and you have Fort: +10, Ref: +3, Will +7 At 8th level, Pendragon's character has: Fortitude - 4+0+3= +7 Reflex - 1+0+3= +4 Will - 1+3+3= +7 Add in the 2 levels of Arcane Archer to take him up to 10th level, and his final saves are Fort: +10, Ref: +7, Will +7 So, at 8th level, Lord Pendragon's character has a higher Reflex save, and the same Will save, and at 10th level, he has a much higher Reflex save, and is only 1 behind on Fortitude and Will. For feats, if you remove 2 levels of Fighter to take you down to 8th level, you will have the same number of feats as he will. Conversely, if Pendragon adds 2 levels of Fighter, he would, again, have the same number of feats. You might want to rethink your statement... At first glance, of course he would have higher BAB, Saves, and Feats. You are comparing your 10th level character to Pendragon's 8th level character. But when you really look at it, his character is better. The only thing that your character will be better at is Fortitude saves, but that comes at a cost of a lower Reflex save and a lower BAB. [/QUOTE]
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