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<blockquote data-quote="Henrix" data-source="post: 152819" data-attributes="member: 3587">No, the fact that some skills are not considered actions does not make all skill use not considered actions.To quote the text just above your quote, the passage begins with:&quot;Using a skill might take a round, take no time, or take several rounds or even longer.&nbsp; Most skill uses are standard actions, moveequivalent actions, or full-round actions.&quot;But that still does not say anything about spellcraft checks.On Spellcraft time to identify a spell being cast PHB p. 128, table 8-4 Miscellaneous Actions:&quot;Free ActionsMake a Spellcraft Check on a counterspell attempt&quot;and Counterspells, p. 152:&quot;If the target of your counterspell tries to cast a spell, make a Spellcraft check (DC 15 + the spell’s level). This check is a free action.&quot;(Emphasis mine.)So, using Spellcraft to identify a spell being cast takes a free action. In other words, if the DM does not want to reveal the spell being cast, and the PC has not readied an action, he does not have to do that.Otherwise your reiteration of the spellcraft rules seems correct.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henrix, post: 152819, member: 3587"] No, the fact that some skills are not considered actions does not make all skill use not considered actions. To quote the text just above your quote, the passage begins with: "Using a skill might take a round, take no time, or take several rounds or even longer. [B]Most skill uses are standard actions, moveequivalent actions, or full-round actions.[/B]" But that still does not say anything about spellcraft checks. On Spellcraft time to identify a spell being cast PHB p. 128, table 8-4 Miscellaneous Actions: "Free Actions Make a Spellcraft Check on a counterspell attempt" and Counterspells, p. 152: "If the target of your counterspell tries to cast a spell, make a Spellcraft check (DC 15 + the spell’s level). [B]This check is a free action.[/B]" (Emphasis mine.) So, using Spellcraft to identify a spell being cast takes a free action. In other words, if the DM does not want to reveal the spell being cast, and the PC has not readied an action, he does not have to do that. Otherwise your reiteration of the spellcraft rules seems correct. [/QUOTE]

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