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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8266628" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>I agree with the vast majority of your post, I did want to point out that JRRT evidently wrote a lot about the origin of Orcs after completing the LotR. Again from the Silmarillion wiki:</p><p></p><p><em>"<strong>In the late 1950s, Tolkien returned to The Silmarillion</strong>, working mostly with the theological and philosophical underpinnings of the work rather than with the narratives. By this time, he had doubts about fundamental aspects of the work that went back to the earliest versions of the stories, and it seems that he felt the need to resolve these problems before he could attempt a "final" version.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#cite_note-MRF-24" target="_blank">[T 16]</a> <strong>During this time he wrote extensively on such topics as the nature of evil in Arda, the origin of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)" target="_blank">Orcs</a>,</strong> the customs of the Elves, the nature and means of Elvish rebirth, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology_of_Middle-earth" target="_blank">the flat world</a> and the story of the Sun and Moon.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#cite_note-MRF-24" target="_blank">[T 16]</a> In any event, with one or two exceptions, he wrought little change to the narratives during the remaining years of his life.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#cite_note-MRF-24" target="_blank">[T 16]</a>"</em></p><p></p><p>PS Thank you for letting me know he had started a good deal of it before the Hobbit. I had previously thought it was written between the two. I also didn't realize that he had wanted it to be published. I always thought it was basically draft mythology for LotR (and the Hobbit). It was still a draft mythology, but he had hoped to publish it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 8266628, member: 83242"] I agree with the vast majority of your post, I did want to point out that JRRT evidently wrote a lot about the origin of Orcs after completing the LotR. Again from the Silmarillion wiki: [I]"[B]In the late 1950s, Tolkien returned to The Silmarillion[/B], working mostly with the theological and philosophical underpinnings of the work rather than with the narratives. By this time, he had doubts about fundamental aspects of the work that went back to the earliest versions of the stories, and it seems that he felt the need to resolve these problems before he could attempt a "final" version.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#cite_note-MRF-24'][T 16][/URL] [B]During this time he wrote extensively on such topics as the nature of evil in Arda, the origin of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)']Orcs[/URL],[/B] the customs of the Elves, the nature and means of Elvish rebirth, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology_of_Middle-earth']the flat world[/URL] and the story of the Sun and Moon.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#cite_note-MRF-24'][T 16][/URL] In any event, with one or two exceptions, he wrought little change to the narratives during the remaining years of his life.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#cite_note-MRF-24'][T 16][/URL]"[/I] PS Thank you for letting me know he had started a good deal of it before the Hobbit. I had previously thought it was written between the two. I also didn't realize that he had wanted it to be published. I always thought it was basically draft mythology for LotR (and the Hobbit). It was still a draft mythology, but he had hoped to publish it. [/QUOTE]
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