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<blockquote data-quote="Thornir Alekeg" data-source="post: 1737365" data-attributes="member: 15651"><p>OK, I accept that in that case he is a player, and I understand that sometimes NPCs are plot devices and have to be kept alive, but what about the DM who spent days crafting the perfect BBEG.&nbsp; He is sure that it will be a huge challenge and will likely kill off a PC or two, but because the PCs use excellent tactics and work together well, the BBEG doesn't stand a chance.&nbsp; Annoyed at being outsmarted, the DM suddenly changes the BBEG or even worse, the rules, and kills off a PC in vengeance.&nbsp; I'm not talking about a climactic battle that becomes a one round fight becasue of some lucky rolls, but a challenging battle where the players did something highly creative.&nbsp; I know personally I would love this and laud the PCs up and down, but I've known GMs who would be ticked off that they were able to beat the BBEG just by being smarter than the GM.&nbsp; Is it cheating, or just bad GMing?&nbsp; I feel that it is cheating AND bad GMing.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Thornir Alekeg, post: 1737365, member: 15651"] OK, I accept that in that case he is a player, and I understand that sometimes NPCs are plot devices and have to be kept alive, but what about the DM who spent days crafting the perfect BBEG. He is sure that it will be a huge challenge and will likely kill off a PC or two, but because the PCs use excellent tactics and work together well, the BBEG doesn't stand a chance. Annoyed at being outsmarted, the DM suddenly changes the BBEG or even worse, the rules, and kills off a PC in vengeance. I'm not talking about a climactic battle that becomes a one round fight becasue of some lucky rolls, but a challenging battle where the players did something highly creative. I know personally I would love this and laud the PCs up and down, but I've known GMs who would be ticked off that they were able to beat the BBEG just by being smarter than the GM. Is it cheating, or just bad GMing? I feel that it is cheating AND bad GMing. [/QUOTE]

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