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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kwalish Kid" data-source="post: 4150804" data-attributes="member: 446">To be fair, there is no stealing involved here. There is the violation, by the distributor, of the copyright that grants certain restrictions, ultimately backed by the use of force by the state, on distribution. (Of course, as Lord Tirian points out, much of the violation of distribution over the internet also involves also violating the restrictions on distribution.) No property is lost by the publishers, save perhaps the opportunity of the sale of a physical object (the associated book). The copyright holder also loses the opportunity to provide a service (access to a source of distribution) of which they, according to the power of the state, hold a monopoly. Said monopoly is provided to increase the price of goods associated with the creative work in order to provide incentive to produce creative works. Whether or not the trade-off in market inefficiency is worth the creative works produced on the whole is a matter for the state to decide. Insofar as all members of a state must obey the trade restrictions of the state, all members of the state must refrain from violating the restrictions on distribution granted by copyright.</blockquote>