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If an NPC is telling the truth, what's the Insight DC to know they're telling the truth?
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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7583378" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>To me, coming from a perspective of many different RPGs, not just different variations of dnd, the idea that referencing your character traits and aptitudes when communicating your character's choices is somehow going to cause new failure chances is staggering.</p><p></p><p>I refer back to comments like the one where the GM said an athletics roll for a climb means a chance of fail but if they just ask to climb it succeeds. Other comments also come up around these of it bring "good strategy" to not ask for rolls cuz rolls might fail, rolls must have a fail chance (which seems to backdoor in the "1 is failure" non-rule.)</p><p></p><p>For my gang, mix of decades long together and new players, we get both types of descriptions and a lot more in the range between. Success/fail is determined the same, regardless of how the player words the effort and whether or not the say "stealth check or not.</p><p></p><p>But for some, it sometimes seem like the process of these things seem to take on their own life and not be a means to get to the results.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7583378, member: 6919838"] To me, coming from a perspective of many different RPGs, not just different variations of dnd, the idea that referencing your character traits and aptitudes when communicating your character's choices is somehow going to cause new failure chances is staggering. I refer back to comments like the one where the GM said an athletics roll for a climb means a chance of fail but if they just ask to climb it succeeds. Other comments also come up around these of it bring "good strategy" to not ask for rolls cuz rolls might fail, rolls must have a fail chance (which seems to backdoor in the "1 is failure" non-rule.) For my gang, mix of decades long together and new players, we get both types of descriptions and a lot more in the range between. Success/fail is determined the same, regardless of how the player words the effort and whether or not the say "stealth check or not. But for some, it sometimes seem like the process of these things seem to take on their own life and not be a means to get to the results. [/QUOTE]
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