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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7586262" data-attributes="member: 97077">Like D&amp;D 5e, the D&amp;D 4e DM determines if a skill check* is appropriate in a given situation and directs the player to make a check if the circumstances call for one. Unlike D&amp;D 5e, however, D&amp;D 4e suggests that the player often initiates a skill check by asking if they can make one. And almost always, according to the D&amp;D 4e rules, the DM says yes.A player can attempt to intimidate the boss monster into surrendering in D&amp;D 5e. The player just doesn't get to ask for a check and instead describes what he or she wants to do. And here is where trying to determine the boss monster's ideal, bond, flaw, and agenda (an action that may be resolved with an Insight check) is important since that is exactly the sort of leverage the character might want to coerce the enemy into doing as asked.* Minor point: There aren't actually &quot;skill checks&quot; in D&amp;D 5e. That term does not exist. There are ability checks and there are skill proficiencies that may apply to the ability check.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7586262, member: 97077"] Like D&D 5e, the D&D 4e DM determines if a skill check* is appropriate in a given situation and directs the player to make a check if the circumstances call for one. [I]Unlike D&D 5e[/I], however, D&D 4e suggests that the player often initiates a skill check by asking if they can make one. And almost always, according to the D&D 4e rules, the DM says yes. A player [I]can[/I] attempt to intimidate the boss monster into surrendering in D&D 5e. The player just doesn't get to ask for a check and instead describes what he or she wants to do. And here is where trying to determine the boss monster's ideal, bond, flaw, and agenda (an action that may be resolved with an Insight check) is important since that is exactly the sort of leverage the character might want to coerce the enemy into doing as asked. * Minor point: There aren't actually "skill checks" in D&D 5e. That term does not exist. There are ability checks and there are skill proficiencies that may apply to the ability check. [/QUOTE]

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