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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7586345" data-attributes="member: 6919838">&quot;As far as &quot;training them to stop thinking&quot;, I simply disagree. &quot;Yeah, to me, &quot;thinking&quot; and specifically &quot;player thinking&quot; should kick into high gear **after** they find the clue. It should not be the focus of how we resolve the character's effort to find the clue.But this is a style thing for sure. I am not a GM who does a lot of puzzle rooms where most of the solving is player-side thinkery that bypasses the PC capabilities. Exact opposite in fact. If I throw a &quot;puzzle&quot; it's going to be one that directly ties in PC traits and reinforces the PC capabilities and requires or relies on the player figuring out how to apply/leverage those traits - not the player personal knowledge of a task. A good example is the movie I, Robot, where at key moments the unique traits of the robot are necessary to get thru certain &quot;puzzles, most notably the characters extra tough alloys (immunity) to get thru a defense shield to unlock the weapon to kill the bad guy later. The player needs to know the traits of the character, think thru when and where they can help in relation to the&nbsp; challenges but I do not make the actual how to of that is a puzzle in itself or really a player-side thing. But that's me. But turning</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7586345, member: 6919838"] "As far as "training them to stop thinking", I simply disagree. " Yeah, to me, "thinking" and specifically "player thinking" should kick into high gear **after** they find the clue. It should not be the focus of how we resolve the character's effort to find the clue. But this is a style thing for sure. I am not a GM who does a lot of puzzle rooms where most of the solving is player-side thinkery that bypasses the PC capabilities. Exact opposite in fact. If I throw a "puzzle" it's going to be one that directly ties in PC traits and reinforces the PC capabilities and requires or relies on the player figuring out how to apply/leverage those traits - not the player personal knowledge of a task. A good example is the movie I, Robot, where at key moments the unique traits of the robot are necessary to get thru certain "puzzles, most notably the characters extra tough alloys (immunity) to get thru a defense shield to unlock the weapon to kill the bad guy later. The player needs to know the traits of the character, think thru when and where they can help in relation to the challenges but I do not make the actual how to of that is a puzzle in itself or really a player-side thing. But that's me. But turning [/QUOTE]

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