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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7587581" data-attributes="member: 22779">So, repeatedly stating that you're doing what the game expects you to do, isn't for the purpose of proving that you're doing things right?  Then why repeat it with every single post you've made for the past several?  Why do you keep restating this over and over and over again if you're not making an appeal to authority in order to tell everyone who disagrees with you that they're playing the game wrong?  And, sorry, but, my linking isn't working so well, there's at least one poster here who has me blocked.  IIRC, your question was something along the lines of should players try to minimize risk?  Was that the question?  Sorry, I never thought it was an actual question, because it seemed like such a basic answer.  Of course they would.   So, sure, engage the mechanics - Help action, that sort of thing - to try to succeed.  But, "avoid skill checks whenever possible by describing things in such a way that my DM will judge my performance to be of such quality that I automatically succeed" or, to put it simpler, gaming the DM which is precisely what you are advocating, regardless of how many times you try to say you aren't, is not something I enjoy.  Oh noes, I give advantage to players who actually play the game?  The shame, the shame.  Sorry, but, if you want to play a game, learn how to play.  I have zero interest in playing with people who cannot be bothered learning the mechanics anymore.  I've been there.  Played with that guy who spent the first six months not even knowing the most basic things on his character sheet.  Yeah, not interested in that anymore.  Play the game we've all agreed to play or find another table.In no other game would this even remotely be tolerated.  Can you imagine sitting down to play poker with someone who has been taught the game, plays weekly for six months and still cannot remember if two pairs beats a three of a kind?  Blarg.  No thanks.  It's not like gaming is really that complicated.  If you cannot learn one page of information (what's on your character sheet) in thirty or forty hours of play I no longer have patience with that person.Heh, yup, I'm doing it wrong.  You keep stating this stuff like it's a carved in stone rule and that D&D cannot encompass numerous playstyles.  Why are you insisting that your way is the one true way?  Why is it so hard to accept that not every table does it your way and not everyone views play advice as the holy writ of gaming?  Sheesh.</blockquote>

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