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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7587658" data-attributes="member: 16814">Huh, you're right, totally useless for finding traps.  I could use the file to poke depressions, or the mirror to look at things from a different angle, or the scissors to cut any cloth or thin coverings away that might conceal mechanisms.  Totes useless.You keep saying that we're looking for magic words, or testing the player's ability to solve problems, but when presented with a situation where "i use my thieves tools to search for traps" it's you that's saying this is impossible whilst everyone that keeps telling you we don't use magic words is dumbfounded that you would say so.  Of course it's a valid approach.  We don't have a preferred solution, we have problems that the players tell us how they're going to solve.  I'm dead certain [MENTION=6776133]Bawylie[/MENTION] and [MENTION=97077]iserith[/MENTION] (and myself, for certain) are not looking for the one approach we have written in our notes because there are NO approaches written in our notes, only the problems.  I never know how the players are going to solve a trap -- it's fun to find out how they do it.  Like, maybe, a ranger not using a light source getting caught in a trap where the dwarf decides to head-charge the trap and bust it to free his friend.  Never saw that coming.</blockquote>